Talk:Commemorative plaque
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Should this be added here
[edit]"In 2004 a memorial plaque to the victims was erected in the Beit Yisrael neighborhood of Jerusalem. The names of the non-Jewish victims were engraved separately from the others. [1]" ??? Zeq 20:01, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
- The newspaper link about separation of names on the memorial belongs in Haredi Judaism, but needs to be handled sensitively. That article currently contains no information about this internal Israeli problem, at least not as it is framed in the Haaretz article. Fred Bauder 12:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
Nomenclature: a plaque is not free-standing?
[edit]In Merriam-Webster's 10th Collegiate Dictionary (online), definition 2c for plaque is: "a commemorative or identifying inscribed tablet." Regardless of size, material, and purpose: is the designation "[commemorative] plaque" based on its characteristic as not free-standing? If a plaque is designed to be affixed to a larger, flat surface (e.g. a wall, part of a monument, etc.), would there necessarily be a different designation—such as "[memorial] wall"—for one that is free-standing but otherwise serves this purpose and resembles the typical plaque in other features? I did not find a single WP page for memorial wall, though there are numerous pages for particular wall monuments.-- Thanks, Deborahjay (talk) 08:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yes. "Plaque" as commonly understood does not include a wall or monument (can be a 3-dimensional sculpture, not necessarily flag.) There is a generic page: memorial (doesn't have to be a wall). "Memorial" connotes death. And I see our monument page defines this as a building or structure.
- That being said, there's no reason a plaque which is affixed to a larger memorial or monument can't still be called a plaque. And incidentally, the surface to which a plaque may be applied does not necessarily have to be flat. JustinTime55 (talk) 18:31, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- I agree - a plaque has to be attached to something larger, even that might only be a block of stone made to hold it. An inscription cut into such a block would not be a plaque either I think, but a memorial. Johnbod (talk) 00:14, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Historic vs. historical
[edit]I wonder if this page should be moved to historic marker, after all, any marker would be historical, right? Historic describes something of consequence while historical just refers to any old thing that happened in the past. Thoughts? --IvoShandor (talk) 05:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- I created an article called "historic marker" not knowing this article existed. I used number of search engine results to determine which article should be merged into the other. I think (but I am not sure and don't feel like looking it up) that grammatically, this is correct. The Battle of Bunker Hill was historic. The monument built there later is historical. Boston (talk) 18:01, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. A "historic" marker would be, for example, the first historical marker west of the Mississippi River. youngamerican (wtf?) 18:58, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- I concurr that 'historical' is preferable for the reason stated in the previous response-the site or event is historic, the marker describing it is historical. Dwight Burdette (talk) 09:57, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Global perspective
[edit]Surely the UK is not the only country in the world to issue commemorative plaques? In fact, they aren't even limited to planet Earth. JustinTime55 (talk) 18:13, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Actually it's mostly not even about the entire UK, it's about England. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.80.111.50 (talk) 18:53, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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Horizontal plaques exist
[edit]The introduction of the article states “A commemorative plaque is a plate of metal, ceramic, stone, wood, or other material, typically attached to a wall, stone, or other vertical surface…”
The problem lies in the statement that all plaques are on vertical surfaces, which is not the case. An example of horizontal plaques are the plaques embedded in the sidewalk of Library Way near the Main Branch of the NY Public Library in New York City.
Would it not be appropriate to exclude the solidarity of the vertical placement of plaques with the existence of horizontal plaques? MrFib (talk) 18:17, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks; I agree that being vertical is not a defining characteristic, so I edited to put that characteristic outside the definition sentence. Jim.henderson (talk) 14:16, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
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