Talk:Combat sport
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Combat sports or martial arts?
[edit]The list on this page seems to be a bit confused. First of all, the title is a self-referencing link (which I'll fix in a moment). Second, there's at least one art listed twice (which I'll fix in a moment). More importantly, though, someone seems to be making an effort to list a really broad range of martial arts. There's already a List of martial arts on Wikipedia, and this article isn't the place for it. Many of the arts listed here aren't primarily combat sports, and some of them really have no combat sport application (I can see how iaido could have competitive application, but combat sport application?). I think this article needs a good deal of editing to improve its focus. I'd give it a shot myself, but to be honest, I've got a rather strong personal bias against combat sports, and don't trust my objectivity in this matter. —Erik Harris 19:43, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, I'm gonna clean house a little... Canadian Ninja 20:44, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be kenjitsu instead of kendo, for instance? While my references are currently in boxes, I seem to recall the latter as being rather impractical for combat usage. Allens (talk) 14:56, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
List...
[edit]Killed the it, divided it up by focus maybe crib the combat sports from the MA nav box? --Nate1481( t/c) 11:00, 13 September 2007 (UTC) [
Pro Wrestling isn't a combat sport...
[edit]And it's not even treated as such in Japan. And while people may pretend it's a combat sport there. It doesn't fall under the definition of Combat Sport and there should be no mention of it. Also the history of Puroresu in Japan isn't even correct on here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Punch999 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
- I would agree. While Puroresu is a pretty stiff style of Pro Wrestling, it's still worked. Would there be any objections if this was removed from the article? It seems especially strange to have Puroresu as the article's picture. SixT-4 (talk) 18:42, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
- I totally agree with you. Please remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.80.104.209 (talk) 21:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Slight misconception
[edit]Although in a real situation, someone with knowledge of a martial art will follow no rules but their own, in simulated combats for practice and mere challenge, most martial arts have strict rules of engagment. This is no different from what would happen to a practicer of a combat sports if he was faced with a real-life situation. Saying "whereas traditional martial arts have no rules" is misleading and I have changed the sentence to account for this.
I would go so far as to say the article should be revised by its major contributers (some sections, at least) to improve the accuracy and clarity of what is said.
Please revise my change in order to correct it or improve upon it if you can.
Arkaever (talk) 11:30, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
there are more combat sports
[edit]airsoft and paintball are both classified as combat sports i my self i'm in a airsoft team. and it is about to combat with other plays using replicas of real weapons in skimishes called matches or games. 64.18.41.1 (talk) 16:23, 29 March 2011 (UTC)VanFosson.
you have a point, of course. The question is, by {{whom}} is paintball classified as a combat sport? It's not unreasonable to so classify it, but it seems that marksmanship and tirs are not usuall included under "martial arts", while archery is, at least sometimes. Perhaps because "martial arts" in origin referred to the Japanese tradition, where there are schools of archery, but no marksmanship with firearms.
On google books, I find one single instance of somebody discussing "paintball as a combat sport", and this in a context of Americans "acting out masculinist fantasies" to compensate for the humiliation in Vietnam. So it would not appear that paintball is really routinely classed as "combat sport".
I do not dispute, of course, that both airsoft and paintball are (a) sports and (b) simulate combat, but that's not the point. Otherwise we would probably need to include football and other contact sports as well. --dab (𒁳) 14:37, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
- Various paintball venues and vendors classify the sport as a "combat sport" - this alone would seem enough to at least consider the activity under that classification, no? Jodayagi (talk) 00:37, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Accepted Definition
[edit]Currently, the article reads more like original research. Better sourcing would contribute to the edification of this article. For example, there are accepted medical and legal definitions of what constitute as a combat sport. I'll cite these when I get the chance. Jodayagi (talk) 00:51, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Intro
[edit]I propose a revamp for the introduction/lead. The article would benefit greatly from a more concise 2-3 sentence paragraph. The technical details explained in the two paragraph introduction would be better suited if they were merged with the body of the article. Jodayagi (talk) 00:51, 12 May 2013 (UTC)