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A fact from Collective unconscious appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 May 2015 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Wise Old Man, the Great Mother, the Trickster, and the Shadow live side by side in Carl Jung's collective unconscious?

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Collective Conscious/Unconscious

I'm not sure references to collective consciousness, or hive minds, should be in this article. For one thing, it has nothing to do with commonality of experience or shared cultures. In a hive mind, every individual acts as an independent synapse, allowing the hive to work as a gestalt. Secondly, there are so so SO many hive minds in fiction, from the Tyranids of Warhammer 40K to the Zergs of Spacecraft, and Star Trek's BORG, that listing all of them would be an article unto itself. -- Raveled

I would suggest giving examples of collective unconscious in modernist literature, that was the beginning, the revolution so to say.

EDIT: One example of collective Unconsciousness in "modernist literature" may or may not be in an episode of Star Trek VOYAGER. In about the 6th season there is an episode named "Unimatrix Zero". If you know anything about The BORG in Star Trek, you would know that there is no Unimatrix Zero, and that the smallest one is Unimatrix One that protects the BORG Queen. In this episode, there is a glitch in a couple thousand drones, where when they regenerate, they go in to a paradise where they can carry out a normal life, but don't remember it when they are't regenerating. (At least until Janeway interferes again. -_-)

Footnote

The quote in the first paragraph from "Evolution and Revolution in Child Psychiatry: ADHD as a Disorder of Adaptation" does not exist. I read the whole article looking for it, then used a search function to look for the entire phrase and individual words. The quote is simply not in the article. This is very disappointing as I really was hoping to be able to quote it myself.

On Criticism

I removed the section on criticism specifically because it stated:

'In spite of his avoidance of ontological affirmations, Jung often appears to suggest that the collective unconscious is a metaphysical reality, which invites less sophisticated analysts to engage in ideological thinking and inflated claims to transcendent knowledge',

However, the fact of the matter is that Jung actually had responded to this suggestion about his concept of the collective unconscious as a metaphysical idea, and he admitted to being very irritated with that misrepresentation. He considered the collective unconscious a biologically rooted thing. The issue here, is that the term "collective unconscious" was not used by Jung as a social phenomena, but as a phenomena of individual person's psyche. When taken out of Jung's original context and instead treated as a social phenomena, it takes on this different meaning - the metaphysical reality, which Jung never meant. It is true he had a concept of a "transcendental function" of the psyche, but this is a different line than inviting "inflated claims to transcendental knowledge". If we are going to keep this criticism in here, we should make sure that we make a distinction where the deviation from Jung's original idea happened in literature and who was the source of this change in meaning of the term "collective unconscious". The way the criticism was laid out makes it look like Jung suggested something he never actually said, an inference on the part of the author of the section "On Criticism".

Collective Conscious

Has it occurred to any other editors that Wikipedia could be the human collective conscious? It knows more than any of us could ever know individually. Smokey TheCat 10:33, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you know what the collective unconscious is supposed to be. Akesgeroth (talk) 01:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Inferno

In the image of the lead it says:

Illustration of the structure of Hell according to Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy. By Sandro Botticelli (between 1480 and 1490). According to Carl Gustav Jung, hell represents, among every culture, the disturbing aspect of the collective unconscious.

Jung never made such a claim. Volumes 19 and 20 of the Complete Work have been revised. The image must be exchanged for another that we can confirm that, according to Jung, symbolizes the collective unconscious.--83.42.232.89 (talk) 19:50, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]