Talk:Collection plate
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Reaquested move
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was: Merged to Offertory per consensus below. Station1 (talk) 09:45, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Collection plate → Collection (religious) — So far as I can tell, the article as it exists specifically says that less than half of Christianity, the religious group mentioned, even use collection plates. At present, over half of Christianity are within the Roman Catholic Church, which is said by that page to half slightly over half of all Christians within it. I cannot see why we have an article about an aspect of basically universal Christian relevance named after a version of the process used by less than have of even the current Christian population. John Carter (talk) 02:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose; this indeed points to an error: the assumption of the writer that xer parish church, in a matter not specified in liturgy, represents all of Roman Catholicism. Find sources and fix the silly claims instead. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:15, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comment - I don't think I wrote the article, but I know that in over 40 years of being a Catholic I have never seen a collection plate used in a Catholic service, and that there is no article extant dealing with the subject of religious collections, so, in any event, I believe the proposed name is both more accurate to describe the subjecy, and probably on that basis a more useful reflection of the practice as well. John Carter (talk) 19:59, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- Just a secondary comment - as an Anglican, the most usual receptacle for our offerings is a bag rather than a plate. My main opinion is as below. Tevildo (talk) 17:55, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comment - I don't think I wrote the article, but I know that in over 40 years of being a Catholic I have never seen a collection plate used in a Catholic service, and that there is no article extant dealing with the subject of religious collections, so, in any event, I believe the proposed name is both more accurate to describe the subjecy, and probably on that basis a more useful reflection of the practice as well. John Carter (talk) 19:59, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comment. I don't see why we don't just merge it with offertory. I'm not sure that the physical plate on which the offerings of the faithful are collected is worth an article on its own, as distinct from the rite itself. It's not in the same league as monstrance, despite the importance of money in today's society. :) Tevildo (talk) 17:53, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comment - I could see merging it to offertory as well, an article I actually didn't see earlier. John Carter (talk) 19:21, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- I could agree too; that part of offertory which is purely verbal could then be copied to Wiktionary and pruned. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:40, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comment - I could see merging it to offertory as well, an article I actually didn't see earlier. John Carter (talk) 19:21, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.