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A fact from Cloudwater Brew Co appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 December 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Cloudwater Brew Co's name is a translation of the Zen Buddhist term unsui, meaning "cloud, water"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cloudwater Brew Co.

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The result was: promoted by Amkgp (talk) 16:20, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Cloudwater Brew Co was once named the second-best brewery in the world by RateBeer?~~ Source: "Manchester brewery Cloudwater has been named the second best in the world at the RateBeer Best awards." Manchester Evening News)

Reviewed: Mark Robinson (American politician)
Comment: Moved into article space from user draft on 10 Nov.

Created by BigDom (talk). Self-nominated at 19:42, 11 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thanks for the second alt. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC) HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 00:59, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. To be honest, it's not the "hookiest" of articles. If there's anything in the article you think could work I'm open to suggestions :) I've proposed an ALT1 below but it's pretty similar to the original. If it's not interesting enough then so be it, I don't mind if it doesn't go on the front page. BigDom (talk) 16:45, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1: ~~... that Cloudwater Brew Co is the only UK brewery ever to be named in RateBeer's annual Top 10 Breweries in the World list?~~ Source: "1. Cloudwater Brew Co, Manchester... The only British brewery to feature in the top ten breweries in the world according to RateBeer[...]" The Telegraph)

BigDom, G2G. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but these hooks are too self-promotional and will be flagged at WP:ERRORS. Please try another hook angle. Yoninah (talk) 23:21, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yoninah Hi there. I'm not sure what you mean by self-promotional as I don't have anything to do with the brewery (apart from enjoying their beers occasionally) and the sources aren't self-published. However, I will propose an alternative:

ALT2: ... that Cloudwater Brew Co's name is a translation of the Zen Buddhist term unsui, meaning "cloud, water"? (Source: "Cloudwater ditched all that, taking its name from a Zen Buddhist phrase unsui "cloud, water"[...] Esquire magazine) BigDom (talk) 10:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Self-promotional" doesn't refer to you, but to the beer. Maybe I should have said "self advertisement". Anyway, ALT2 reads a lot better IMO. Thanks. Pinging original reviewer HickoryOughtShirt?4 for a review of ALT2. Yoninah (talk) 12:48, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]