Talk:Cisco PIX

Footnotes

There are an awful number of footnotes on this page...can we merge or crop some of em?

That's a tough question. I added the footnotes to include important info that didn't belong in the table. I have tried to multi-use as many of them as I could, but every entry is a unique bit of information that doesn't have much in common with any other. Any ideas?--MARQUIS111 July 5, 2005 14:30 (UTC)

I edited footnote number 10, some PIX Firewalls may contain the AL440LX, so does mine. Feel free to correct me if im wrong. I'll test some different Intel Boards with the PIX hardware to see if IOS supports different boards. Regards, Side from the german wiki

As an end user of this page I have found the footnotes very useful.Robertdirosario (talk) 02:06, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

FWSM refs

I changed most of the references to the FWSM to "FWSM" rather than the part code. Dave au 03:33, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Footnote renumbering?

Should I renumber the footnotes for my edit? --MENNIS 21:00, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Wouldn't hurt; it's just a lot of trouble to go to. --MARQUIS111 02:33, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Nah, I scripted it. Please sanity check my work though! --MENNIS

Centri firewall

The statement "The PIX became Cisco's flagship firewall product after their failed product, the Centri firewall, which ran on Windows NT 4." is false. Centri Firewall was acquired in July 1997 via the Global Internet Software Group acquisition, two years after the PIX acquisition. Centri went on to lay the groundwork for Cisco policy-based management application, Cisco Security Manager, later renamed to Cisco Secure Policy Manager. They competed in the same business unit for a short period. --Rbmcnutt

Good info. Do you plan to amend the article?--MARQUIS111 12:34, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

16MB flash in an older 520?

My PIX 520 has 16MB Flash yet it is an earlier serial than the "cutoff" point mentioned for the 2MB/16MB upgrade. Is this accurate?

It is accurate in as much as Cisco's site says so. I added this link to FN6 [1] . Did you buy the 520 new or used? If it came new with the 16MB, and the serial is lower than that cited, then Cisco must have been keeping incomplete records. If used, then anyone could have installed the card in as a recommended upgrade.--MARQUIS111 23:42, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Maximum OS version in table

There is no Maximum PIX OS Version row in the Current Models table. This seems to imply that all of these models will run the latest version of PIX OS (currently 7.2), but I'm not sure this is the case for the 501 and 506E. Cisco's release notes for 7.0 show that it only supports 515/515E, 525 and 535 and specifically states under System Requirements:

The PIX 501, PIX 506E, and PIX 520 security appliances are not supported in software Version 7.0

I can't find the 7.1 or 7.2 release notes, but I doubt that these later releases have introduced support for these models. Royhills 10:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

ASA boot from CF card

ASA boot from Compact Flash card (the internal one) in IDE mode so it really need IDE controller. 83.6.141.253 22:00, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Deleted ref to Frankenpix

Deleted the discussion of the "FrakenPIX" as it is off topic and violates PIX software license agreement. Brian Ford 14:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't mind the deletion, as it was somewhat off-topic, but discussion of the existence or creation of FrankenPIXes does not violate the PIX software licensing agreement. It does not advocate anything illegal; it just mentions the feasibility.--MARQUIS111 15:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Brantley Coile footnote

The footnote for Brantley Coiles is meaningless (and possibly inaccurate as there is no way of verifying that he works at the company mentioned - they don't list anyone under "company"). Brian Ford 14:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

If that part bothers you, then I suggest you remove it and renumber the footnotes.--MARQUIS111 15:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Critique of article

You should write marketing lit for cisco, this is an encyclopedia, not a marketing extension for the technology that likley pays your paycheck. You guys should be ashamed of the flagrant plugs for product and other other cisco products along the way- doesn't Cisco have a website where this material can accessed by people who actually care about getting the info?

I thought so.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.20.221.71 (talk) July 18, 2007

In 2007, maybe, but Cisco had moved to the ASA and information about the older PIX line was dying. Today (Dec2023), NONE of it exists at Cisco anymore. You are correct in that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; it's information will long outlive the original sources. (and website redesigns) This page is one of the last remaining sources on the now long defunct PIX. -- Ricky Beam (talk) 00:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

1GHz cpu in 525

Have Pimped my PIX 525 to 1000 MHz using a SL5QV 1000/256/100/1.75V processor. Would take it to 1100 MHz, but the processors are so hard to get... Martin

PCI slot in FWSM

This pages states that the FWSM has no PCI Slots but if you open it there is a pci slot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.234.217.150 (talk) 16:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

SSL VPN support

I'm quite certain PIX 515 and 525 DO support SSL VPN ! As far as they run a 7.x + OS version.

NTI PIX - separate page or not?

Based on documentation available from John Mayes' new webpage, I am gathering more information on the original Network Translation Inc., PIX, but I am asking for input on whether or not this information should go on the Cisco PIX page or on a separate new page. Questions/comments? --MARQUIS111 (talk) 17:29, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Definately here. Work on a single article and make it shine. As it becomes too large in the future (around 30-50 kB), split will be easy: see WP:Article size and WP:Summary style. This is the standard way. Regards. --Kubanczyk (talk) 22:07, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

How to handle interior pictures of models?

I'm considering adding interior shots and front/back shots of the various models. Should those have their own pages or should the PIX pix just be thumbnailed off to the right of the page?

I think it is OK to do it here. Definately thumbnails, the large pictures are almost never used on Wikipedia. If, the pictures go in threes, it would be better to use <gallery> tags - see Wikipedia:Picture tutorial#Photo gallery. --Kubanczyk (talk) 12:08, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Malware suspected in reference

Google Chrome reports that the site referenced in reference 10 (Hacking the PIX 506e) possibly supports Malware. Should this be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.144.59.64 (talk • contribs) 08:44, 15 January 2011

Thanks for report (confirmed here). I removed the whole note including the link as it did not seem helpful. The note about overclocking should probably be removed as well. Johnuniq (talk) 09:21, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Missing ASA Article?

So I know wiki had an old and very good ASA page, it appears someone has deleted that and referenced this article with a broken piece about ASAs... Why was this done? Can we retreive the old ASA article and make that active? ASAs are NOT Pixes and IMHO should have their own page back, or just rename this page the "Cisco Firewall" page and integrate the old article info into this one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Golbez81 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree completely about undeleting the actual ASA page. Some genius moderator/admin here decided a while back that an ancient platform (PIX) that is well on its way out, is more relevant than a current platform (ASA) that most people interact with on a daily basis (whether they know it or not). 12.203.226.2 (talk) 17:36, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I have submitted the original Cisco ASA page for undeletion (un-userification). Estimated time for undeletion is two to three weeks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ckent1 (talk • contribs) 18:19, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that! Hopefully they fix it up.

I am also looking for the /Cisco_ASA article or at least the foot note that it redirects to, which is also broken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.13.221.162 (talk) 16:13, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Still not undeleted and this is 2016 :( There's apparently plenty of room on wiki for gigabytes upon gigabytes of blather about someone's mommy's best friend's son's garage band, but the ASA is "not notable." Sigh. 210.22.142.82 (talk) 06:19, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Huh, I never checked the talk page here. I noticed a while ago that searching for asa led to this page which only had a mention or two of asa so I added basically a stub at the end. Wikipedia's deletion policy is really weird. Yes there's info that should be removed because it is personal information and stuff, but that should be a separate function from article deletion. The two functions being the same just makes no sense. And it's not like regular admins should have access to that personal information anyway.TeeTylerToe (talk) 14:29, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

I looked for the article to see if it could be undeleted as an administrator, and apparently it has been deleted so long that it has become permanently deleted. Sorry! Jesse Viviano (talk) 21:22, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

I think I archived the deleted article on my userspace the last time an admin made it visible. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:TeeTylerToe/sandbox21 TeeTylerToe (talk) 21:31, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

The article at User:TeeTylerToe/sandbox21 is unfortunately impermissible as a copyright violation because the page history required for GFDL and Creative Commons 3.0 attribution is missing. If that can be retrieved, then it would be a good start. Jesse Viviano (talk) 15:29, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Looks like it was re-deleted yesterday? (Deletion log); 13:08 . . Nyttend (talk | contribs) deleted page Draft:Cisco ASA ‎(G13: Abandoned AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13) an admin can undelete it.TeeTylerToe (talk) 16:34, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

I did not know that it had been moved to the Draft namespace. Anyways, we would need some market share numbers in order to prove that it is popular enough to overcome the reviewer's reluctance to allow this article to be restored to the Main namespace. Unfortunately, this information is either behind paywalls or illegally duplicated from sites that use paywalls, and links to the illegally duplicated material is disallowed. Jesse Viviano (talk) 22:18, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

There are no published sales numbers for Cisco products. ANY OF THEM. By that metric all Cisco related articles should be deleted. The fact is, Cisco holds a large portion of the firewall market -- again, exact numbers are hard to prove. How do you think they got there? Serial numbers suggest there are, indeed, millions of various hardware ASAs out there. And the virtual ("cloud") products are even more popular. Deleting the original ASA page was an [censored] move. Continuing to block its recreation is criminal. As it stands, there is now an entire product family that is completely lost in history. And the jerks deleting the pages have alienated every single person willing to recreate the information. So there's next to no mention of the existence of the ASA, or it's replacement "Next Generation" (FirePOWER, dash-X) models Anyone looking for information on the ASA line has to know the precise Google-fu to search and then wade through hundreds of worthless bull to find the nugget they need [eg. what's the difference between a 5510 and 5520?] -- which used to be a table just like the PIX models documented here. Ricky Beam (talk) 01:09, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

The deleted ASA article is available at http://speedydeletion.wikia.com/wiki/Cisco_ASA Please stop deleting so much...

Cisco ASA is live. The tag in this section (and the section itself) are out of date. Replace them with a one-liner and a link? –P₁h₃r₁e₃d₁₃ (talk) 16:17, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

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Removed product specifications. This is not a product brochure.

I've been searching for some extensive HW information about the now obsolete PIX series and to my surprise, I've run into this horrible thing when some geniuses here deleted all that information last december with some totally silly reasoning. What the heck? This information is getting pretty much impossible to get already and will be really impossible to get in another five years when every other site having info about 20-25 years old HW will be dead. So is this encyclopedia or what? If it is, than every bit of fact is important for preserving and deleting it is just WRONG, there is NO justification for that. Behemot (talk) 17:01, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. The phsyical hardware specs -- that Cisco never actually published -- is a very valuable bit of information. This page used to hold the same for the ASA line, but other [censored] deleted the ASA from history (see above.) One has to go to the wayback machine to find that nugget today. Ricky Beam (talk) 05:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

The data can still be found in the edit history of this page. As the person who rounded up most of that information, I'm a little surprised at what's happened to the article while I was away, but I guess that's the tenor of Wikipedia these days.--MARQUIS111 (talk) 19:51, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Indeed. It's like we're stuck in a Florida HOA. Whom ever deleted that stuff (TWICE) obviously has never seen a Cisco product brief, or data sheet. Cisco doesn't say much about what's inside any of their hardware. (I've only seen ONE presentation -- from Cisco Live! -- talking about the merchant silicon [switch SoC] used in the various Nexus switch lines.) Plus, for the last decade or so, Cisco has been very aggressively deleting things from history. Sure, the IOS builds for 2500's, etc. take up a lot of space, but data sheets and other marketing and technical docs don't. (they used to ship it all on a single CD.)

The data on the PIX hardware can still be found in this page's history. Since the original Cisco_ASA page was purged, it's data and history are gone. The only way to see any of what was is through the snapshots at archive.org. The ASA page has since been recreated (as of 2018), but is a shadow of what it once was.

I support the re-integration of the product specs. It's the only concise source of that information. And it will not be found by search engines until it's on the main page.

-- Ricky Beam (talk) 01:22, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

I also think the removed technical information was very useful. Should we just add the information back in? Robertdirosario (talk) 07:12, 12 May 2021 (UTC)