Talk:Christian Louboutin

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Birth year

Changed birth year from 1976 (which would have made him 3 when he had his epiphany) to 1963. This article [1] by Suzy Menkes in the International Herald Tribune in 2005 (dated 2006 but article date per URL is 2005) stated his age at 41, making his birth year 1963 or 1964. This site [2] gives his birth year as 1963. --Nowhy 15:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Louboutin's own web site says 1964 on this page. 212.139.97.150 (talk) 23:11, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1964 on this page - 79.70.234.162 (talk) 20:43, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What other references are there and what do they say? 1963 or 1964? 212.139.101.145 (talk) 20:00, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1963 on this page - 79.70.234.162 (talk) 20:43, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Celebrity verification

Can anyone verify this statement Britney Spears has been seen wearing his classic black patent peep-toe pumps around Los Angeles in the last couple months. DivineDeeds (talk) 03:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article comments need verification

This article reads like an advertisement from beginning to end. Statements such as "instantly recognizable" and "seen his celebrity status expand" are subjective and should not appear in Wiki at all. Much of the rest of the article is not cited, and needs a source besides his company to avoid being considered straight advertising.

What makes it particularly vapid is the emphasis on his biography, his show-business connections, but very little on what, exactly makes his designs distinctive, or the history of the designs which made him famous. I.e., it's really very close to be a candidate for deletion. 24.130.14.173 (talk) 10:25, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What makes these distinctive? The *red* sole. 79.73.198.147 (talk) 20:47, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

There seems to be little consensus as to the correct pronunciation of his name. All of the following have been offered as candidates so far:

Loo ba-ton 369883367,
Loo-boo-tahn 372224161,
Low-bow-tin 381425846,
Loo-bih-tahn 384216631,
Loo-bit-tahn 384329719,
Loo-boo-tan 386189488,
Loo-boo-tang 386798235,
Loo-boo-teng 386798292,
Loo-boo-tan 387657592,
IPA: [lubutɛ̃] 397456307,
IPA: [lubutɔ̃] 411347543,
IPA: [lubutɛ̃] 425672095,
IPA: [lubu'tɛ̃] 425672188 --- 80.42.234.237 (talk) 00:53, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IPA: [kÊistjÉ‘Ìƒ lubu'tÉ›Ìƒ] 434779674
IPA: [kÊis.tjÉ‘Ìƒ lu.bu.tÉ›Ìƒ] 434779772 --- 109.176.195.14 (talk) 19:34, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Louboutin would be pronounced Loo-BOO-tehn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.34.90.118 (talk) 00:41, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here, Louboutin says his own name. You can't get more official than that. -- 82.153.211.254 (talk) 18:32, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of spam in discussion

I've taken the unusual step of removing discussion comments, And reverts to last apparently good version by NuclearWarfare. They were made by editor Feelling -- who has no other Wiki edits, and includes statements such as "So popular this brand is that you can not ignore it even if you intend to do so." This is uncited hyperbole. Piano non troppo (talk) 03:20, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Images

It looks like most of the images here are copyvios, I have tagged three for speedy deletion, haven't found the sources of the others so far but I douvbt they were taken by the uploader. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:14, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clean-up

This article is very poorly written and I've tried to clean it up a bit. It offers almost no objective biography, and it contained a tirade about counterfeits and trademarks. I removed the tirade, made the article a little more NPOV, and placed the gallery at the end of the article (although I'm surprised that Louboutin doesn't claim copyright infringement for the gallery).

Other articles about designers do not contain long essays on the magical but dubious trademarks they've applied for, nor do they tell tales of illegitimate DMCA filings or other attempts to stave off counterfeit merchandising. It looks like Louboutin wrote this article himself, given its lionizing tone. I should point out that filing DMCAs is for copyright infringement, not advertising of counterfeit goods, and unfortunately this article created confusion about the nonexistent connection between the two (until I removed that part).

Wikipedia is for fact-based, objective articles, not fawning fan stories or advertisements. Agateller (talk) 13:24, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

From page 5 onwards (result 51 onwards) almost every entry listed in Google's organic search results for the search term "Louboutin" is from a site selling fake or counterfeit goods: http://google.com/search?q=louboutin&start=50 In fact, more than 800 of the 1000 Google results are for fake goods. -- 81.101.111.23 (talk) 23:19, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, every one of the 100 pages of Google search results for the search term "Louboutin" contains at least one, and often three or four, notes about results which have been removed as a result of a DMCA request. The removed results are for sites selling fake and counterfeit goods as evidenced by each of the documents filed at the Chilling Effects website. Many of those counterfeit websites are also listed here: stopfakelouboutin.com/en/Home/Search-Engine -- 81.101.111.23 (talk) 23:19, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that counterfeits and trademarks tirade is important, may be something shorter like this (like the french page counterfeits = (fr) contrefaçons) ? ->

" Fighting fraud online

" Branded genuine Louboutin shoes are sold in-store and online through various luxury goods retailers such as Harrods or Selfridges for example. Online, Net-A-Porter or Saks Fifth Avenue sell genuine Louboutin. The Louboutin brand is under constant attack online from fake and knock-offs versions, often made in China. Louboutin's own website now sells some of their products online in the US & Canada but this is the only domain with the word Louboutin in it to do so. Louboutin's main website contains a prominent note stating that any other domain name containing the word "Louboutin" is very likely to be selling counterfeit goods.

" In the last few years, the company has served hundreds of DMCA notices on Google to remove many sites selling fake goods from their search results. Even after this action, thousands of sites remain online.

" The company has recently set up a separate website^[1] focused on protecting their brand, and detailing hundreds of websites that sell fake goods, as well as summaries of legal actions taken, including raids on factories, with photographs and videos of the mass destruction of counterfeit goods."

Arroser (french) 13 octobre 2011

It is estimated that the counterfeiters own more than fifty thousand domain names selling these fake goods. This is a serious large professional criminal activity. It's also likely run with much use of near slave labour. It's no wonder that they try to suppress the information about it.91.85.44.13 (talk) 21:06, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "The "stop fake Christian Louboutin" website" (in (in French)). Stopfake.christianlouboutin.com. Retrieved 29 April 2011.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: unrecognized language (link)

Cameroon ancestry falsehoods

Unfortunately a lot of one drop rule bloggers have started an unsubstantiated rumor that CL is "African" and has "Cameroonian ancestry". His own statement about race via a racist incident was published May 8th, 2012 in the Sunday Scotsman:

'One day he was out with a friend “in leopard, with high heels” who was half-Spanish, half-Vietnamese. Louboutin, who “was going to pee my pants”, used a restaurant toilet.

“The staff went crazy,” he tells me. “One guy grabbed my friend by her hair and started calling her a little bitch. I took my fist to him, and he screamed, ‘Don’t you dare touch a white guy or I’ll crush your nose even more flat than it is’”. I wasn’t in a black or mixed race family, so I had no experience of racism. But still, I was different.” He was so young at the time. What did he do? “For a few days I wanted to go back there and kill them,” he admits. “I was full of anger.”"

A generic advert style Vogue Francis websites vaguely mentions CL having "Cameroonian roots" but provides no verification. Distant unverified ancestry is not going to make him "Black" or "Cameroonian". So editors should please refrain from tagging someone as "Black" or any race they are NOT unless you have documentation. legopisstoo8dick (talk) 21:06, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Spam in page edit history

Revisions 512115588 to 514801273 inclusive (13 to 27 September 2012) include links to spam and fake sites.

These revisions could be removed to neuter the links. 212.139.96.89 (talk) 13:07, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Revisions 519302814 and 519303391 by 125.77.234.236 on 23 October 2012 also contain links to fake sites and could be removed. 212.139.99.63 (talk) 07:24, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in Christian Louboutin

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Christian Louboutin's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "stuff":

From Villaggio Mall: Migone, Paloma (May 29, 2012). "Kiwi triplets among 19 killed in mall fire". stuff.co.nz. Retrieved May 29, 2012. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
From If U Seek Amy: Staff Reporter (2009-03-02). "Britney adopts raunchy new look". Fairfax New Zealand. Fairfax Media. Retrieved 2009-12-01.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:29, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The second reference looks like it is the right one. Added. -- 79.70.226.1 (talk) 21:38, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "The "stop fake Christian Louboutin" website" (in (in French)). Stopfake.christianlouboutin.com. Retrieved 29 April 2011.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: unrecognized language (link)

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