Talk:Christ. (musician)
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His name
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- There is no religious meaning in his name; rather, it is an abbreviation of his real name, Christopher Horne, which also explains the full stop (period) which is an official part of his handle.
This can be read as NPoV, but IMO it is too ambiguous to qualify. It may help if i avoid being too coy about my own PoV, so let me start there:
- IMO, it's a good thing (outside WP) to offend Christians who think his stage name is blasphemous. WhoTF do they think they are, claiming to own the koine Greek word for "anointed"? Theism is a stupid outlook that reinforces and inevitably preys upon a human weakness, and a monotheism is a fascistic form of that stupidity. I'm glad he's putting his thumb in their eye, and fuck'em if they can't take it.
Notice i said "outside WP". I don't mean we have to avoid offending them within WP -- bcz the very concept of NPoV is a threat and and offense to monotheisms, so our existence offends any monotheist who isn't playing the Templeton game of religious or social politics. But our trying to offend them (in the main Namespace!), when it occurs, is a violation of NPoV.
As to this specific case, obviously Horne knows it will at least irk Christians, but more to the point, he knows that folks like me will notice with approval, and give him a little more share-of-mind than he'd have otherwise. "Chris" is universally the nickname of Christophers, and one reason for that is that "Christ" (with long or short I) is harder to say than "Chris", by considerably more than 20 or 25%. (And who puts a period at the end of a nickname??) No one can read his mind, but it is simply not credible that his choice of the handle is independent of the fact that it will have some kind of religion-related significance to those who see it. That doesn't quite make him a bald-faced liar, but it doesn't quite rise to the level of plausible deniability either. What it does mean is that the passage i quoted inside my 1st sent expresses the PoV that the man means what he says, whereas the fact is that no one can prove what is highly likely, that the closest he stands to the truth is that part of his mind has gulled another part into ignoring how he arrived at the name. And IMO what we have to say is pretty close to
- He says he intends no religious significance in using the name Christ., and places the full stop, or period, at its end to emphasize that it abbreviates Christopher.
or
- He disclaims any religious meaning in the stage name, describing it as short for his full name, and the full stop or period as indicating that status as an abbreviation.
I'll put a {{fact}} tag on that, and expect that when a source is offered, it may require some rewording, but i think we have to go closer to that direction.
--Jerzy•t 01:23, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- So you're actually going to believe him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.94.251.19 (talk) 07:27, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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