Talk:Chris Rabb

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Vasectomy Memo

Several sparklingly new or little-used SPAs or/and IPs have been skirting the line of WP policies by in bad-faith reproducing the argument Rabb put forth in his memo (not legislation, a memo!) as actual scare-mongering of enforced sterilization. The memo, at https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/Legis/CSM/showMemoPublic.cfm?chamber=H&SPick=20210&cosponId=36286 (left URL whole on purpose as doc ID might change), clearly contains passages such as its opening lines:

"public debate around abortion, contraception and related reproductive matters has thrust government into the center of restrictions on the bodily autonomy of women and girls. Rarely is [...] the personal responsibility of cisgender men [...] with little focus on their responsibility as inseminators"

which I feel are fair to neutrally describe the spirit of the memo "Rabb's memo draws attention to the double-standard of regulating women's bodies via legislation" as I did in the mainspace. It is also not synth to say it is in reaction to Texas's state law, when he says

"As long as state legislatures continue to restrict the reproductive rights of cis women, trans men and non-binary people, there should be laws that address the responsibility of men who impregnate them"

Further, he makes it clear he is joking and indulges in absurdism with the surfeit of sex, penis, and vasectomy wordplay in

"As we head toward climax on this heated discourse around this delicate matter, we should come together to address it with surgical precision. We must also commit to mending the social fabric being sliced up by bitter acrimony."

Lastly, he ends with jokes and again in plain words calls it a "double-standard" with

"What’s good for the goose is good for the gander! In the spirit of this popular axiom, I encourage my colleagues to take a gander at this forthcoming bill that seeks to end this egregiously gendered double standard."

That's why I think "On October 2, 2021, Rabb authored a memo to all members of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives indicating that he will be introducing legislation to enforce reproductive responsibility among men. Rabb's memo draws attention to the double-standard of regulating women's bodies via legislation while the equivalent bill affecting cisgender men would seem absurd." is a better neutral description of the memo than the text that focuses on the specifics, couched as neutral, but obfuscating the obvious intent. JesseRafe (talk) 17:01, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is not a neutral stance to reference an "equivalent" bill which is at best subjective. An "equivalent" bill would be requiring tubal litigation in women. The article itself should present neutral information, not the editor's interpretation of that information. The references are provided to direct the reader to the source information where they can draw their own interpretation. Any references interpreting Rabb's intent should be removed. I personally am appalled by the wasting of taxpayer resources on such idiocy, but to put that in the article would not be neutral. This should be reverted. ThunderHobo (talk) 18:41, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Policy for listing and citing committees

@Notwally: I requested clarification on the policy for listing and citing committees, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Politics/American politics. The talk page response states: "Is is relevant to include a representative's committee assignments? Yes. Citing that to the original source is also the most reliable source, and the information is perfectly verifiable. This is not the sort of thing that would need to be sourced to independent news articles to verify or establish relevance." I am therefore restoring the section and citations of the committee list. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 13:55, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One other person's opinion on a talk page does not determine policy, and that one person provided no explanation for why they think it is relevant. Please see my response there, and let me know if you would like to continue the discussion there or here so that a consensus can be reached without splitting the discussion into multiple places. – notwally (talk) 21:37, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]