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@CAVincent:, hefty claim requires hefty sources. This is not an obvious statement like the sky is blue. If someone at some point rattles off whatever they felt like jotting down and that is later removed, we can't just say add citation needed tag to justify re-inclusion. The fact that it remained for long isn't necessarily consensus. Many articles often haven't been noticed for quality issues. add CN if you want, but the claim that these bands were foundational to grunge is completely non-controversialGraywalls (talk) 10:28, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]