Talk:Mirror life

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This article was deleted in 2007 ( https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FChiral_life_concept ), but there were lots of advances in synthetic biology since there, like synthetic cell in 2010, ribosome in 2013 - we are technologically approaching chiral life concept as a real possibility to synthesize in a lab. It carries both new possibilities, but also dangers - should be well understood before inevitably becoming a reality - needs public discussion, or at least awareness. Please don't delete this article, but improve it instead.

This first version is basically a copy&paste from the old version ( http://wikibin.org/articles/chiral-life-concept.html ) - with additions of advances in synthetic biology, and removing a bit creepy (but interesting) bottom half of the wikibin article. Jarek Duda (talk) 10:44, 28 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming as Mirror life

This subject appears to satisfy the criteria for a Wikipedia article, but not under the title "Chiral life concept", which only seems to exist online in discussions started by Jarek Duda, the creator of this article (e.g., this one, this and this). However, there is a suitable title for it, proposed by one of the scientists who is trying to create such life: "Mirror life". This is mentioned in the article by Bohannon and in a few other articles I will add citations to. Therefore, I am going to move this article to the new name. RockMagnetist (DCO visiting scholar) (talk) 00:08, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I have used "Chiral life concept" name first time 16th April 2007 ( https://www.scienceforums.net/topic/24037-immunity-by-incompatibility-%E2%80%93-hope-in-chiral-life/ ), when it seems no other public sources were available (?).

Indeed "mirror life" sounds good, but:

1) is a bit ambiguous: suggests a video game, mirror of soul etc. More appropriate would be "Mirror-chiral life".

2) Does not underline the really crucial here: willingness to actively synthesize such life ("concept") - we are not just wondering here why there is no "mirror life" coexisting with ours ("Mirror-chiral life synthesis"?) Jarek Duda (talk) 05:00, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The bottom line is that "mirror life", whatever its shortcomings as a term, is the one that is actually used in reliable sources. See Use commonly recognizable names for the related Wikipedia policy. RockMagnetist (DCO visiting scholar) (talk) 15:31, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Still using "mirror life" name as in the cited articles, the name of this Wikipedia article should be e.g. "Synthesis of mirror life" as it covers the active process (in contrast to Homochirality article), in future should cover advances in this synthesis. Jarek Duda (talk) 16:16, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, most of what you have written explores the implications of creating mirror life, not the synthesis. RockMagnetist (DCO visiting scholar) (talk) 22:09, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite needed

This article needs some serious rewriting. A lot of it reads like a personal essay. I am going to provide more context and weed out the non-encyclopedic stuff. RockMagnetist (DCO visiting scholar) (talk) 00:30, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also, many of the sources are popular science articles or primary research articles. Wikipedia's guidelines emphasize writing from secondary sources such as review articles in peer-reviewed journals. See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources#Scholarship. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 07:54, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In particular, Pitkänen (2018) is apparently a self-published personal viewpoint by an author with no peer-reviewed publications https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8051-4364 who self-describes as being "regarded as a 'mad scientist' in the academic world of his native country" https://www.tgdtheory.fi/tgdmaterials/me.html AndyOcean (talk) 23:38, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review source on the topic of mirror life

https://doi.org/10.1002/cbic.202200537 "While preparation of an entirely self-replicating living entity in mirror image form is a major challenge, D-enantiomers of key enzymes involved in the central dogma of molecular biology have been prepared" .150.46.201.103 (talk) 07:13, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]