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On 3 August 2012, it was proposed that this article be moved to Beer in the People's Republic of China. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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Ummm..... could we make this article specify what beer company it is talking about, at the least?

i think it's talking about chinese beers in general. so far theyre pretty unremarkable, but the Tsingtao Brewery article is the one about a specific company. Nateji77 05:19, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Tsingtao's market dominance earns it a paragraph to itself, but in the current version, following my restructure, I think it's clear that most of the article is talking about Chinese beers in general, not just one company. Rodparkes 02:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Use of formaldehyde

Formaldehyde? What is the source of the author's information? This doesn't sound right to me. If it is, which specific Chinese beers contain this carcinogen?

See these articles from Chinese national newspapers: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-07/12/content_459503.htm and http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200507/15/eng20050715_196351.html Rodparkes 02:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know about beer. This Wiki article contain sensationalized stories implying the chemical is an oddity when it's not. Because the chemical is in many beers but at safe levels. According to Urban myths and consequently the same Chinese paper, formaldehyde appears naturally in any brewery process but no such chemical is artificially added to Tsingdao Beer as a stabilizer, according the local quality watchdog. And the SAQSIQ spot-checked 157 domestic beers and 64 foreign products from countries including the United States, Germany, Japan and the Republic of Korea and found that imported brands also contained 0.10 to 0.61 milligrams of formaldehyde on average per liter, compared with 0.10 to 0.56 milligrams for Chinese products. https://www.urbanmyths.com/urban-myths/food/beer-myths-is-there-formaldehyde-in-beer/ So why the generalized emphasis on a misinterpreted chemical that isn't all that unique to a single country. Unless the levels were too high which it wasn't.

http://en.people.cn/200507/17/eng20050717_196588.html

Additionally the report said that when within acceptable ranges, formaldehyde used in the beer industry would not harm health because it soon broke down during processing to negligible amounts. That's why foreign imported beers had it as well, but well below safety min levels. The media was quickly criticised for such sensational and loose misinterpreted reporting as it misleads people not well versed in the brewery industry. https://www.scmp.com/article/508386/watchdog-clears-beer-formaldehyde-fear Hence I don't think this Wiki article shouldn't even include such sensationalized media reports in the first place. Gurnardmexico66 (talk) 01:52, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New company

New company for evaluation: 莫干山泉啤酒有限公司 ("Moganshan spring beer limited company" of Deqing County, Huzhou, Zhejiang, China). Badagnani 19:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maize (corn)

Isn't some Chinese beer brewed with maize as an adjunct? The article only mentions rice and rye. Badagnani 06:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

History

Where is this information coming from? Is it a reliable source? It seems questionable. Rbritt518 (talk) 05:54, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, there's no good reason for 'taiwan beer' to be on this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.108.170.120 (talk) 11:02, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also could we possibly get away from the Chinese stereotype of "Oh my god we were doing this soooo long before you". Based on the information provided, the Chinese were not brewing what we would consider beer. It was brewed, but many civilisations were brewing lots of things. Lets get specific.

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was not moved. --BDD (talk) 20:18, 11 August 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure) Full disclosure: I've recently participated in similar discussions, but the outcome of this one is clear.[reply]

Beer in China → Beer in the People's Republic of China –

This article is talking about beer in the People's Republic of China, so the accurate title is Beer in the People's Republic of China.
For example: The article telecommunications industry in China、Electronic information industry in China have also been removed to

Telecommunications industry in the People's Republic of China、Electronics industry in the People's Republic of China MacArthur1945 (talk) 15:22, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Common name of the current country, and the historical sense. The article is about "China" in a non political sense, but in a more "cultural" sense.--Education does not equal common sense. 我不在乎 03:50, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Per recent trend of China, Flag of China, etc., this should remain at the current title. Also in accordance with WP:COMMONNAME. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 04:39, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - China primarily refers to the country. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 06:39, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - It's Beer in Germany, not Beer in the Federal Republic of Germany. Dalian held a "China International Beer Festival" last month, not a "People's Republic of China International Beer Festival". Kauffner (talk) 02:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Don't move The only people who are confused by "China" are anti-PRC radicals who apparently actually believe Taiwan's ludicrous claims to all of China and half of Mongolia. Ego White Tray (talk) 04:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Your understanding of the intricacies of Chinese geo-politics is impressive. Where do I sign up for your newsletter? 109.154.65.180 (talk) 11:45, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose China is the common name for the country, so there is no confusion here. I doubt that anyone ever confuses this article with Beer in Taiwan. --Enric Naval (talk) 09:37, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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