Talk:Chief of the Defence Staff (United Kingdom)
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What's the Chain of Command?
[edit]Which office is the immediate superior of this office? Is it the Ministry of Defence in the person of the Minister itself? Perhaps a table showing the chain of command would be useful in these types of entries, or a link to a central article with such a table.
- It is nominally the Commander-in-Chief, the Queen, but in reality the PM.Straw Cat (talk) 15:11, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
What's the length of a term for this appointment, from the list of those that held the position in the article, I can't make out if it's two or three years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.150.63.170 (talk) 01:55, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
five-star
[edit]Is it quite necessary to say that the CDS holds rank that is equivalent to an American five-star rank? Not everyone who reads this page is American. (I removed the references myself.) Michaelphonic (talk) 11:25, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
- Agree in principle to your change. However, use of the "star-rank" equivalences is not restricted to US; its use is now widespread in NATO, the Commonwealth, and other places. Also, sadly, the general public recognise it more easily. Sadly.
- I have reinserted the bare links, but to much less prominent parts of the sentences, returning the focus to the Commonwealth rank names, with the star-rank equivalences as "tack-ons", not the foci. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:05, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm, you're right. I was a bit too hasty, thinking that was only an American expression. Thanks. Michaelphonic (talk) 13:30, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Richard Gammage
[edit]I was under the impression that after being station commander at RAF Halton, Gammage was promoted to Air Commodore. If this is correct, then the mention in the article that he is deputy personal staff officer must be several years old. Does anyone have any further info on this? Kayedj (talk) 21:25, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Five Star
[edit]With the recent post retirement promotion of Guthrie, Boyce, Walker and Stirrup to [honorary] five star rank, is this now a given for all retiring CsDS? Should Richards and Houghton expect the nod in a couple of years? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.196.43.45 (talk) 15:43, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Stuart Peach
[edit]Can someone edit the bar section? Don't know how.
Cantab1985 (talk) 10:02, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- What bar section? If it's a navbox, it'll have to be edited from it's template page. - BilCat (talk) 10:10, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
New Table
[edit]I was thinking that the table should be changed to the standard Officeholder table, thoughts?
No. | Portrait | Chief of the Defence Staff | Took office | Left office | Time in office | Defence branch |
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1 | Marshal of the Royal Air Force Sir William Dickson, GCB, KBE, DSO, AFC (1898–1987) [1] | 1 January 1959 | 30 July 1959 | 192 days | ![]() |
Skjoldbro (talk) 10:13, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- I agree: please go ahead. Dormskirk (talk) 22:57, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ Barrass, Malcolm (25 September 2007). "Marshal of the RAF Sir William Dickson". Air of Authority – A History of RAF Organisation. Retrieved 28 April 2009.
Icons
[edit]Hi - User:Howard61313 has introduced some american-looking military icons as image placeholders into the article. I personally think they are garish. Views welcome. Dormskirk (talk) 18:44, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- American-looking?? Flags with the Union Jack on them?? - BilCat (talk) 19:14, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- I am referring to the image placeholders in the second column on the left which seem to have american-style stars on the epaulets. Dormskirk (talk) 19:17, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, OK. I should shut up until I know what's going on :) - BilCat (talk) 19:26, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- My fault, I was not clear. Dormskirk (talk) 19:51, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Well, I didn't think for one second that these are the so-called "American-looking icons". They have been used in many countries' military-related lists and templates since the first version of this kind of icons created in 2011, and for me, no characteristic of any specific country, including the US, is seemed to be shown on them.--Howard61313 (talk) 06:29, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- While I respect the bold initiative, I do agree with Dormskirk. I have not seen such icons used before, and see no reason for them to be included here as they distract from the content and look rather horrible. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 08:38, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/62321/data.pdf
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Sammartinlai (talk) 13:22, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
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Post-nominals
[edit]It seems that the list of chiefs only list the post-nominals that they held during their time as chief. Is this the best way to do it? It seems confusing to me. Also, are we sure that all the post-nominals are correct? For instance, Charles Guthrie is listed as "KT" (Knight of the Thistle) even though he was made a knight of the Thistle after he retired. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ff462 (talk • contribs) 08:11, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
- Hi - It is standard that we give details of the post holder with the title, rank and postnominals that they had at the time they held office. Please compare with other similar articles. I don't see KT behind Guthrie's name in this article. You probably meant Cameron and I have now removed the KT after his name. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 09:37, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
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