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A note

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I have deleted four useless and xenophobic adjectives.Cybertwerp 17:59, 21 September 2007 (UTC) --Cybertwerp 17:59, 21 September 2007 (UTC) I think the reason that Cherry Blossom redirects to here, is due to the fact that the whole basis of the Cherry Blossom comes from the flowering cherry tree. I do however agree, Cherry Blossom should have its own individual page with its own specific information. - Tytyga 19:02, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Cherry Tree" Should Not Re-Direct Here

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I wanted to learn information about the trees, not the fruit. Such as how big do they get if grown from a pit/seed rather than a graph. --68.118.201.68 (talk) 02:43, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cherry blossom shouldn't redirect here -- it has important cultural significance, outside the meaning of "cherry" itself, in japan.

Removed this, as the references show it to apply to fruit generally, not specifically limited to cherries - MPF 21:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Cherry tree is very different than the fruit. Having read about hemlock trees and how hardy they are and where they originate and how the wood and bark is used. What's up with this? No botonist would catagorize trees by their fruit. Pine trees all have fruit also. Should they redirect to "pine cones"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.107.33 (talk) 16:18, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Where is the mention of cherry lumber? Cherry wood is a prized furniture wood, with good working properties, and medium hardness. It's color darkens with age. Certainly this merits discussion. Hermanoere (talk) 23:04, 2 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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The FDA has threatened the U.S. cherry industry with legal measures unless it stops mentioning health benefits of cherries [1] [2]. The FDA has sent letters to cherry distributors saying that when health benefits are mentioned, the cherries then become "drugs" that are subject to seizure [3] (FDA Threatens to Raid Cherry Orchards, William Faloon, Life Extension Magazine, March 2006).

One of the links was wrong, that's all. RJII 21:49, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but I'm still very far from convinced that it should be included here; firstly the unchanged link states that it is "cherry and other Fruit-Based Products" (my italics), which shows that the principle of the ban is a general one and thus if to be included, should be on the 'fruit' page; secondly, it is a relatively insignificant parochial decision limited to just one country, and as such is not really encyclopaedic information. - MPF 23:36, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

annual production

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the figures are impossible. it equates to about 20Kg per day of cherries per person globally. nice but i don't think so! crazy!86.1.38.164 (talk) 16:05, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

45698 million tonnes?

did i read that right? 45.7 BILLION tonnes of cherries per year? wouldn't that be about 6 tonnes of cherries per person? is this correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.13.30 (talk) 03:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. FAO statistics give more like 2 million tonnes for 2007.Samogon (talk) 21:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When I corrected the Serbia figure, I did not check the world production. But since not all producing countries are listed by us, the world figure probably had an independent source (i.e., it was prob. not jsut the sum of the entries' values).Kdammers (talk) 03:21, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

surviving

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cherry tree survives durning winter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.103.101 (talk) 22:29, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from article

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foto of cherries is wrong yellow-pink cherries r Qu. Ann/Napoleon, Royal Ann, or Hungarian Cherries not Avium!! Myson —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.180.110.23 (talk • contribs) 22:55, August 26, 2006. not only but cherries are good lol!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.0.24.5 (talk) 14:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

cherry as wood

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Why is there no mention made of the cherry tree's wood? Cherry tree lumber is certainly one of the most important hardwoods, especially in fine cabinetry--and so is veneer made of cherry wood. I wish I knew more about it, but without that information, the article is not sufficiently informative. NaySay 21:23, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree. About all I know about the wood of a cherry tree is that, under exposure to sunlight (I presume the UV spectrum in particular), cherry wood significantly darkens. Some more info here would be great. Listrophy (talk) 14:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
NaySay You are correct Cherry wood is highly valued as a cabinet wood. The wood used is from P. serotina (Wild Black Cherry, Black Cherry, Rum Cherry). The wood is very valuable- and expensive. What I want to know who said the other varieties aren't valued for food. Black cherry is used, among other uses, to flavor soda, liquor (Hence the name Rum Cherry), and ice cream. The tree is native to North America and grows quite large (80-100 feet) as opposed to 40-60 for sweet and sour cherries, unlike other cherry trees, but is an invasive species in Europe. Also Bush Cherries which include; Nanking cherries (P. tomentosa), Hansen's Bush Cherry (Prunus besseyi ‘Hanson’), Sand Cherries (All 4 varieties), Carmine Jewel (Prunus cerasus X Prunus fruiticosa), E.M. Meader's Bush Cherries (Jan, Joel, and Joy varieties - they are crosses of Prunus japonica X Prunus jacquemontii), Wild Chokecherries (Prunus virginiana), Amur Chokecherries (Prunus maackii), Japanese/Korean Bush Cherry (Prunus japonica), and European Dwarf Cherry/Mongolian Cherry (Prunus fruticosa) - all have value in making jams, jellies, pies, pastries, sauces, juices, wine, as a flavoring in liquor (especially Hooch), and less commonly eaten raw. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.242.136.201 (talk) 14:23, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing appears to have been done so as to incorporate this into the article. Peter Horn User talk 19:30, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I found a brief mention in Cherry#Other information Peter Horn User talk 20:20, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Prunus arthurella

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Hello, I'm one of the administrators of Polish Wikipedia. An unregistered user has created an article about a species of cherry (w:pl:Wiśnia arthura - prunus arthurella). He said that it is a new species, which is additionally very rare and has been developed and grown in Wales. Google does not return any hits when a query is sent to the search engine. Is the information true, or can it be classified as a hoax? Please, give me answer here. Regards, Wiktoryn 21:25, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

how tall do they grow?

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I think the article could use a mention of this. Btyner (talk) 18:45, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You will die of poisining two species?

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"There is a slight chance there will be to much mercury in the cherry you eat and you will die of poisioning two species..." That doesn't make sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginbot86 (talk • contribs) 04:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

spurious slang definition

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In many parts of North America they are among the first tree fruits to ripen; hence the colloquial term "cherry" to mean "new" or "the first", e.g. "in cherry condition".

I'd just take this out as not too relevant. The slang etymology of 'cherry' is not based on 'new' or 'the first', but rather 'virgin', with 'cherry' and 'cherry popping' being a known hymen and de-flowering references.Samogon (talk) 21:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which Species Are Native Where?

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What a sloppy article. It states that North America has two native species and Europe/Asia has three but does not say which ones! Can someone fix this? Thank you.174.6.130.25 (talk) 12:25, 28 July 2009 (UTC)BeeCier[reply]

It is sloppy but I don't blame the authors as I just spent way more time than I want to admit researching this. Okay major things that are wrong with the article-
  • fruit that contains 6 very rough seeds - What type of cherries have they been eating. Cherry fruits are stone fruits (Plums, Nectarines, Peaches, and Cherries) and contain only 1 pit per fruit.... at least the last time I ate stone fruit they were....
  • Native Cherry Trees (Excluding intentional hybrids) to North America- I may have missed some, but it is quite a bit more than 2;
    • Prunus serotina (Black Cherry, Wild Rum Cherry)- Valued highly for its lumber and its bark is still used for medicinal purposes. Cherry was used to make Cherry Bounce, which is black cherry + liquor or brandy. It is used for jams, jellies, syrups, pies, liquor flavoring, soda flavoring, and in ice cream flavoring. Many websites incorrectly state all parts of the plant are toxic- this is incorrect and only the leaves are toxic. The cherries are of high value to wildlife. Tree grows 80-100 feet tall.
    • Prunus pumila. Taxonomy wise there is great confusion as under modern taxonomy there would be 4 variations however many guides only list 3 variations while others list 4 while others still yet classify the Sesquehana Sand Cherry into its own species instead of a variation. Some guides, and most garden retailers, still list them as Prunus besseyi (Western Sand Cherry, Rocky Mountain Cherry, Bessey's Cherry, Hansen's Bush Cherry), Prunus Depressa (Eastern Sand Cherry, Flat Cherry, Prostrate Cherry, Appalachian Sand Cherry), Prunus cuneata (Sesquehana Sand Cherry/Canadian Sand Cherry), and Prunus Pumila var Pumila (Great Lakes sand cherry). Prunus besseyi can, rarely, grow as tall as 9 feet but usually grows to 3-5 feet-- the other varieties grow to 1.5-2 feet. Prunus Besseyi in particular is documented as being cultivated by settlers as early as 1756. Somewhere between 1906-1912 Dr Neil E. Hansen bred an improved cultivar of Prunus besseyi that produced larger fruit, more palatable fruit, had more abundant fruit production, larger fruit to pit ratio, and is mildew resistant originally marketed as the 'Improved Dwarf Rocky Mountain Cherry' and is known today as the Hansen's/Hanson's Bush Cherry or Hensen's Pie Bush Cherry. Hansen, among other botanist at the time, intentionally crossed Prunus Besseyi with other cherry and plum trees to produce hybrids that were cold and drought tolerant that could be grown in the US Northern Prairie and Canadian Prairie. The tree is comonly planted as an ornamental edible shrub prized for its deep wine/purple fall foliage. Fruits are used; raw, to make pies, make wines, make jellies, and make jams. Prunus Besseyi is comonly used as root stock to dwarf other cherry, plum, nectarine, and peach trees. Distribution is as follows;
      • Western sand cherry occurs from Ontario south to Arkansas and west to Utah, Montana, and Saskatchewan.
      • Eastern sand cherry occurs from Quebec and Newfoundland south to Tennessee and west to Ontario.
      • Great Lakes sand cherry occurs from Ontario south to Pennsylvania and west to Iowa and Minnesota.
      • Sesquehana sand cherry occurs from Quebec and Newfoundland south to Virginia and west to Minnesota and Manitoba
    • Prunus virginiana (Chokecherry/Wild Black Cherry) Extremely important to wildlife and livestock as a food plant. The Fruits are used to make wines, syrups, jellies, and jams. Also planted as an ornamental tree.
    • Prunus pensylvanica (Pin Cherry)- Has high value for wildlife as food and is used as a ornamental plant.
    • Prunus emarginata (Bitter Cherry- has high value for livestock and wildlife. Plant was used by Native Americans for tools and for medicines)
    • Prunus alabamensis (Alabama Cherry, Alabama Black Cherry)- Fruit is important as a food source wildlife.
    • Prunus caroliniana (Carolina Cherry laurel)- used as an ornamental plant for its foliage. Foliage is toxic to livestock. Berries attract birds
  • Hybrids need to be mentioned-
    • The Purple Leaf Sandcherry (Which is very often planted as an ornamental plant for it's purple leaves) is an intentional cross between the Western Sand Cherry and the Pissardii Plum. Its listed Incorrectly as Prunus cistena it shoulf be P. X cistena to indicate it is a cross
    • The crosses of Prunus cerasus (pie cherries) with Prunus fruiticosa that has been carried on by the University of Saskachewan- such as the Carmine Jewel. The original work was done by Dr. Les Kerr in the 1940's and has produced several cold hardy cherry trees hardy up to zone 2. The Camille Jewel was released in 1999 and is sold in the US now. Other varieties, Romeo and Juliet and Valentine for example, developed from this work are waiting for testing to be released into the US.
    • The crosses between Prunus japonica and Prunus jacquemontii done by E.M. Meader of the University of New Hampshire- Jan, Joel, and Joy Bush cherries.
    • The crosses Prunus besseyi and Prunus salicina known as cherry-plums done in the late 1880's- early 1900's to produce fruiting trees that could be grown on the prairie.
  • Some (Not All) of Websites that this data was drawn from
  • Obviously there are more edible (And Palatable to Humans) cherries than just Sour, Sweet, and Nanking
  • More than just Sour/Sweet are grown commercially - Black Cherry is grown commercially for its timber and it's fruit, Nanking Cherries are grown commercially in the US Northwest
  • Hansen's Bush Cherry is not a Nanking Cherry (I corrected that obvious mistake)- It will take a while for the mirrors to stop spreading that misinformation.
  • Depending on the Brix (Sugar content) of the cherry... The Sour Cherry can be sweater than the sweet cherry. This is especially true of some of the U of S varieties.
  • Finally I don't have the volition or the stomach for the editing war that would ensue if I fixed the article myself.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.242.136.201 (talk) 23:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reintroduction to England

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The article provides three references to say that cherries were 'reintroduced' to England on Henry VIII's orders. The wild cherry is native to southern England and is quite edible, so this presumably refers to certain cultivated forms being introduced, and is confused anyway since it does not say when it was first introduced. I'm tempted to take the whole section out ... ? Imc (talk)

I removed both the 'reintroduction' bit for England, and the suggestion that cherries were not known in Western Europe till introduced from Turkey. There is plenty of evidence that the wild fruit was gathered and eaten, even if the tree was not cultivated. Imc (talk) 19:26, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Overlap with Prunus

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I propose that the bulk of the botanic information which is also in the Prunus article be removed from this one, and that this article be restricted to the fruit. With links to related articles such as cherry blossom. Imc (talk) 19:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not Accurate?

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Quoted from the article under Botany>Species: "This list contains many Prunus species that bear the common name cherry; however they are mostly of little or no value for their fruit." I put a [citation needed] tag in there but perhaps we should remove the point it makes about most cherries being of little value for their fruit. My source against this is: http://www.pfaf.org/database/search_name.php?ALLNAMES=Cerasus Just because they're not typically used in by our economy does not mean they're of little value. Furthermore, if we decide they are indeed of little value to humans, we must specifically say that and not make a broad statement which would also mean they're not of value to other creatures as well. Khono (talk) 17:58, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It needs to be taken out altogether- Black Cherry (Prunus serotina) is very commonly commercially used to flavor beverages (Especially soda and Rum), to make pies, and Ice Cream- It is very much commercialized. Nanking Cherries are also commercialized for food uses as are Amur Chokecherries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.242.136.201 (talk) 14:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Say, I think that we need some facts that

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explains that cherries are different than berries. I mean, I couldn't really tell that cherries are a different species of fruit rather than a different kind of berry, until I got here, and still, I am somewhat not convinced.... 71.220.93.204 (talk) 07:22, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cherries, the fruit, by definition (The Merriam-Webster dictionary definition) are actually drupes from the plants classified in the Prunus genus. A drupe is a one-seeded indehiscent fruit having a hard bony endocarp (Pit) surrounding the seed, a fleshy mesocarp (Flesh), and a thin exocarp (skin) that is flexible in the case of the cherry. They are considered small stone fruits. Berries by contrast tend to have multiple seeds. These articles explains it more squidoo.com/is-a-cherry-a-berry-or-a-fruit and http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/rosaceae.pdf . The definition on the wikipedia article page, which is in err, claims that only subgenus Cerasus fruits are true cherries and only 2 species are native to North America - This is what USDA GRIN has listed for this subgenus http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/splist.pl?20151 note that Carolina Laurel Cherries, Black Cherries, Pin Cherries, and Choke Cherries are among the North America Native species (More than 2). Also note that Nanking cherries (subgenus Microcerasus which includes the Hybrid purple-leaf sand cherry, Japanese Bush Cherry, and Nanking Cherry http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/splist.pl?20155 ) and Sand Cherries (subgenus Penarmeniaca which includes only the various variations of sand cherries, the desert peach, and desert apricot http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/splist.pl?20156 ) are excluded... Pyguams are included though. You can also see what I mean by the Taxonomy for Sand Cherries is confused here http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/splist.pl?9887 - Note that the varieties of Sand Cherries have been given their own species and are also listed as variations of another species - which is very odd indeed (Not really as the sand cherry is not quite a plum and not quite a cherry that can grow in sand or in clay under cold drought conditions- there is no real common name for that type of fruit). May-Duke (Medoc) or Duke Cherries (A self-fertile hybrid of sweet and sour cherries which popularity is waning since the introduction of the self-fertile sweet cherry cultivars - AKA the Stella in the 1970s ) are also not mentioned in the article - despite that both US Presidents Washington and Jefferson Planted them http://www.springerlink.com/content/9r2370544301h291/ .... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.242.136.201 (talk) 04:04, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Cherry may also treat gout!

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Cherry may also treat gout! See http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:t5fncBv_jfYJ:www.cherryactive.co.uk/images/cherryactive-health/Nutrition%2520Practitioner%2520-%2520Gout%2520%26%2520Cherries.pdf+cherry+Prunus+gout&hl=el&gl=gr&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiKUt_V-htYqzc_0pjnqVf04-5cFu3lziWda5vI50RxMMJbwP8XPH5oOdSiEYuAIiWFvsFejI_S1KdXyRxgtu2TJ7me5Tjez8FfkQR7ZCdNjYgXG2LpUF9gAlIhW7xq8ps7Ubp8&sig=AHIEtbQo0UFykt4i2z9kVBMa9n2cHj4CSw 688dim (talk) 11:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stella Cherries

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The photo at the top of this article shows a cherry and says it is Prunnus Avium and says it is a "Stella Cherry". When you go to the article on Prunus Avium, that name is not mentioned. Would someone please verify the name and if correct, please add it to the list of names in the Prunnus Avium article.

Drxenocide (talk) 14:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Contradiction

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The taxobox of this page states that it is about subgenus Cerasus, but the species list includes subgenus Padus. I propose that, as with the Raspberry page, the taxobox should be removed. There should be a discussion of subgenus Padus, and the species list should be divided into subgenera. Nadiatalent (talk) 14:06, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from Further reading - potential source

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Journal articles on possible health benefits

--Ronz (talk) 20:44, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing genus with family

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Under subsection Growing season under the section Cultivation, there is a reference to "the Prunus family." However, Prunus is a genus in the rose family (Rosaceae), it is not a plant family.

Desmodium (talk) 13:03, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Error Regarding Geographic Range

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Under subsection Growing season under the section Cultivation, the article states that no Prunus can grow in tropical climates due to a requirement that the seeds be subjected to cold temperatures in order to germinate. This is not correct and Prunus myrtifolia occurs in the tropics of North and South America. In Florida, it is commonly referred to as West Indian Laurel Cherry and it occurs in southernmost Florida, several of the larger Caribbean islands, and northern South America from where it extends south to Brazil and Bolivia (USDA Germplasm Resources Information Network). Prunus myrtifolia is a member of subgenus Cerasus, which is the subgenus to which the commercially important sweet edible cherries belong. Since it is a tropical species, its seeds do not require exposure to cold temperatures in order to germinate.

Desmodium (talk) 13:19, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Size

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Cherry#Cultivars, What is this about size in terms of square metres? Strange. Peter Horn User talk 19:32, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Capital Peter Horn User talk 20:09, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, it was shorthand for height x spread ... will correct asap (no access to a pc at the moment).Darorcilmir (talk)

When people are reading this wiki page Cherry#Cultivars one would assume we are talking about Cherry Fruit Cultivars as we are redirected to the Onamental Cherries and Prunus pages several times. The table provided are only for ornamental varieties. There is lettle mention on this page in general concerning the various edible varieties of cherris. 81.102.111.206 (talk) 11:47, 21 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Planting

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I would like to add a new subsection under cultivation and title it planting. A good addition to the article could include watering and rootstocks which I would place in that section. I look forward to comments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Horst59 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I made the addition, and would appreciate another contributor to give a look to consider improvements.20:11, 24 June 2015 (UTC)20:11, 24 June 2015 (UTC)~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Horst59 (talk • contribs)
Thanks for improvements Zefr. Well done. And apologies to all for my clumsy signing practices I will try to get it right.2602:306:B88A:2D20:F19D:C0DF:E7C2:ADE0 (talk) 04:24, 25 June 2015 (UTC)Horst59[reply]
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Turkish

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I had changed the etymology part saying Turkish word for Cherry (kiraz) came from Latin (it comes from Greek). I had 44 bytes removed from my account.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/kiraz 

Ibn Gabirol (talk) 13:24, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism removal request

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The following changes, mentioning fictional entities and contested political attribution, should be reverted.

https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?diff=893599167&oldid=893194272&title=Cherry&type=revision

This is a page about cherries, not about middle-eastern political ambitions. 109.64.17.197 (talk) 09:48, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Plantdrew (talk) 13:42, 5 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Razzcherries" listed at Redirects for discussion

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Razzcherries. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Steel1943 (talk) 06:22, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Contradictory statement...

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By referring to “native” sweet cherries, the following excerpt from under the Sub Heading “North America” seems to Contradict an earlier statement that cherries originated in Europe and Asia and were introduced to The Americas:

“Native and non-native sweet cherries grow well in Canada's provinces of Ontario and British Columbia...” Virtualaura (talk) 16:38, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Brunton reverted my edit

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Brunton You reverted my edit based on "Medical claim, needs MEDRS." I reviewed MEDRS and I don't see a problem. Please explain which part of MEDRS I have violated, and what I have to do to remedy this. I did not make a medical claim. I cited two scientific studies which present conflicting findings: one in favor of cherry juice, one against. I cited reliable sources in academic journals and the authors are identified. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 23:09, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:MEDRS: “all biomedical information must be based on reliable, third-party published secondary sources”. What is needed is review articles, ideally systematic reviews, published in appropriate peer-reviewed journals. The sources you have cited here are primary sources. There are some review articles linked from them, but they seem to say that the results are inconclusive, largely because of a lack of sufficient data. At best, all we can say from the reviews is that the results of research are inconclusive. We need to avoid the sort of cherry-picking inherent in choosing positive and negative primary studies and trying to offset them against each other. Brunton (talk) 08:26, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I understand now. Thanks for the feedback. Cordially, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 10:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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