Talk:Cherokee Outlet
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Factual accuracy
[edit]Cherokee Outlet and Cherokee Strip are not the same thing. [1] There is probably more that is wrong with this article.. Ash Lux 15:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- The Cherokee Outlet is most commonly called the Cherokee Strip (both currently and historically) so the names as stated in the article are correct [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]. Statements that it is "wrong" to refer to the Outlet as the Strip are misleading. 12.74.168.54 04:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- I have edited to article to point out that the Cherokee Strip is only the portion settled in the 1893 land run, but that the term Cherokee Strip is often applied to the whole Outlet--facts taken from the Cherokee Strip museum up in Perry (or, rather, "up in Perry" to me, I'm in Stillwater). This seems to me to address both points here, so I'm going to remove the dispute tag. Feel free to re-add it, with comments, if you find additional issues. scot 19:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Descriptivism vs. Prescriptivism
[edit]Popsiclecrawfish, I don't think it's Wikipedia's place to say it's a mistake to refer to the Cherokee Outlet as the Cherokee Strip. The fact is, it's very commonly called the Cherokee Strip, and in some official ways: [7], [8], [9], [10], [11]. We can explain how the terms have become confused in common usage, but I don't think we should declare that a mistake. It's reality. What do others think? Lobosolo 01:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I agree and think it is worth explaining the difference in the terms. I lived in Ponca City for many years and the residents of the area are more likely to know the Cherokee Outlet as the Cherokee Strip. (Epicac (talk) 16:51, 6 September 2010 (UTC))
- FWIW, the Encyclopedia of Oklahoma History and Culture article,"Cherokee Outlet Opening," distinguishes between the two terms. It states that the Cherokee Strip was a piece of land along the southern border of Kansas that the Cherokees lost along with the "Neutral Lands" in the 1866 Reconstruction Treaties. The Cherokee Outlet was a much larger tract in Indian Territory that was opened to settlement in 1893. Bruin2 (talk) 19:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Commission?
[edit]I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the commission described as negotiating for this territory was the Jerome Commission? Thanks. 204.52.215.69 (talk) 05:22, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Article classification
[edit]This article meets the requirements for Class C. I have marked this page accordingly. Bruin2 (talk) 15:29, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
Oklahoma Territory?
[edit][crossposted from Oklahoma Territory
Was the Cherokee Outlet part of Oklahoma Territory from the beginning? The Organic Act reads, "... except the unoccupied part of the Cherokee outlet", and furthermore, the borders of the territory run until they "strike[s] the south line of the Cherokee outlet which it follows westward to the east line of the State of Texas," and then also includes the borders of the Public Land Strip as if they were non-contiguous [thanks to the Outlet], and furthermore, states that the outlet will be added to the territory at a later time. Most sources include it from the beginning, but some, most notably, well, the organic act itself, but also the Newberry County Maps Project, puts it as joining in 1893, following the proclamation of a treaty with the Cherokee. --Golbez (talk) 21:28, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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