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Several issues were raised about this page. I think I understand them, except "Very few or no article link to this one," the references question, and the question of notability.

It's a brand new article, so wouldn't you expect very few other articles to link to it? Chalice (cup), and Robin McKinley, already linked to it, I believe. I'll try to see if there are others that might appropriately link, also, and add links to them.

Many articles on individual books don't have much verification, because, as in this case, the "facts" come from the book. What to do about that?

I wrote this article because the Robin McKinley page had a stub for this book, and assumed that, therefore, it was notable enough to have an article dedicated to it in the Wikipedia. McKinley is, it seems, an important author. I have also seen information, although I can't remember where, from Wikipedia volunteers, saying that they want all fantasy novels to have an article. This seems a worthwhile goal, and not only for fantastic literature.

I'll try to address the other issues over the next week or so. I had just read the book, and wanted to write about it before I forgot it.

Thanks.

Mlabar (talk) 19:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)Mlabar[reply]

Hello, Mlabar. The tags you see at the top of the page are there to serve the dual purpose of being both a to-do list for the article's primary contributors and putting the article into "hidden categories" that let other Wikipedians see what articles need what sort of help (see Wikipedia:Maintenance if you'd like to volunteer or just see how things work behind the scenes). Additionally, the tags also alert anyone who passes through to what the article needs, just in case they know of a good intra-wiki link or something of that nature that they can add before moving on. When I and the many others who do new pages patrol see something promising but in need of help, we'll often fix things ourselves, but if we're trying to keep up with a deluge of new articles, we'll leave those tags to let the rest of the community know what needs to be done.

As for the particular tags you had questions on, don't worry about the incoming links tag. Those tend to grow organically over time. The notability iss is one you should probably address, though. Wikipedia's notability-based inclusion criteria is at Wikipedia:Notability (a must-read, or at least a must-skim), and the discussion related particularly to books is here: Wikipedia:Notability (books).

If you have any more questions, just drop me a line at my Talk page, or paste {{help-me}} onto your personal Talk page. Thanks. --Dynaflow babble 20:45, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Dynaflow. I'll read the Notability page for books. Mlabar (talk) 02:38, 28 January 2009 (UTC)Mlabar[reply]

Notability

Here are some references that establish notability as per WP:BK

"Chalice." Publishers Weekly 255.29 (21 July 2008): 159-160.
"CHALICE." Kirkus Reviews 76.16 (15 Aug. 2008): 176-176.
Rutan, Lynn. "Chalice." Booklist 105.1 (Sep. 2008): 89.
Campbell, Heather M. "Chalice." School Library Journal 54.10 (Oct. 2008): 154-154.
Arnold, Mary. "Chalice." Voice of Youth Advocates 31.5 (Dec. 2008): 455-455. --Captain-tucker (talk) 14:46, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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