Talk:Certificate of Degree of Indian Blood

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Really?

This is bizzare. I did not realize that the US government issued blood/racial cards. At the very least, all these claims need to be need verifiably sourced and cited with reliable secondary sources. I have requested such claims in the article. N2e (talk) 04:18, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The CDIBs exist because since the 19th century, whenever Native Americans were eligible for any land, services, payments, etc., non-natives would attempt to pose as Natives for personal gain, so a methodology (very imperfect) was created to document who was, in fact, Native American. -Uyvsdi (talk) 05:22, 7 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

Fascinating. I had no idea. Thanks for adding good sources to the article that back this up. And your explanation here on the Talk page makes sense as to the political economy of the issue.

If I have time, I might do a few searches in the scholarly literature to see what has been said about this 19th-century legacy system, why it was created then and why (besides inertia) it still exists today in a supposedly liberal democracy, and who benefits (as in who wins? who loses?) from such a system of "rules of the game". This all seems like it would be of relevance to improvement of the article and coverage of this institution (CDIB cards) and resultant social outcomes from their existence and the "rules" that go along with them.N2e (talk) 17:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(And on a more general level, it is interesting that Wikipedia has no article on the use of the term "rules of the game" in political economy, even though it is a widely discussed concept (see above Google Scholar link) institutional economics and sociology; all Wikipedia uses today seem to be about the use of the term in fiction, theatre, movies, etc.)

If you haven't read it already, the Blood quantum article goes into the reasoning and benefits of this system. Also the Indian Arts and Crafts Act of 1990 touches on the issues of legal Native identity as well. -Uyvsdi (talk) 18:03, 7 February 2011 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]

Not by adoption?

Since adoption records are sealed, and birth certificates issued in the names of the new parents, there may be an issue with phrasing here. I suspect you can't claim an open adoption, or an adult adoption, but if you have a birth certificate from a closed adoption, it's hard to see how you'd be prevented from being issued a card. KenThomas (talk) 02:22, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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