Talk:CeCe Peniston

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is "peniston" her actual name? --Catz ^{[T • C]} 21:57, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, her brother, mother, and dad have the same name! :-) Souldier77 16:36, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hafta say, if it were my name, I would add another "n" to the middle of it. "Penniston." Just one extra letter -- that's all it would take. A simple fix, and defuses obvious, uh, "issues". I assume it's pronounced that way anyway (like "Dennis"), so why not? I'm surprised no one at her record label thought of it. (Or maybe they did, but CeCe refused to make even the slightest change to her public name?) (Or rather, her "pubic" name? Heh heh...) Captain Quirk (talk) 22:32, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Under Construction?

There is a lot of blank sections in this article. It seems an editor was in the middle of an extensive editing, and just stopped. Perhaps, the "under construction" template should be placed here, if he or she plans on finishing. If not, then that editor should probably ask someone for assistance with this article.Mk5384 (talk) 22:57, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I plan finishing this article by the time the CeCe Peniston's comeback album scheduled for the fall of 2010 is out. Benuliak 13:05, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request

This entire article needs a complete re-write. The narration lacks neutrality in scope and language, has the feel of a fluffy music article piece for Seventeen Magazine composed by a fan. Article should be downgraded by Wikipedia with a neutrality dispute/ lack of verifiable citations and should be considered for removal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.95.112.76 (talk) 22:50, 2 May 2017 (UTC) {{editsemiprotected}} Can you semi-protect the article, which took me a long time to have built, please? Benuliak 21:59, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 22:07, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

DO we have stats on how frequently this page has been vandalized? It seems like with a name like that, it would be fairly common. I remember when I was a teen peeling off the price tags over her albums and intentionally covering the last three letters of her name. --02:41, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Just for this year, the page has been vandalized with PENIS as dated below:

Revision as of 03:06, 26 March 2011 by NBlack78 - removing profile image
Revision as of 00:13, 17 February 2011 by NBlack78 - removing profile image
Revision as of 15:51, 16 February 2011 by NBlack78 - removing profile image
Revision as of 15:41, 16 February 2011 by NBlack78 - removing image
Revision as of 14:51, 15 February 2011 by 74.114.36.65 - changing 'Peniston' to 'Penis'
Revision as of 03:13, 15 February 2011 by 72.73.234.243 - changing 'Peniston' to 'Penis'
Revision as of 03:07, 15 February 2011 by 72.73.234.243 - changing 'Peniston' to 'Penis'
Revision as of 17:13, 11 April 2011 by 165.155.204.94 - changing 'Peniston' to 'Penis'
Revision as of 17:12, 27 April 2011 by 165.155.204.123 - changing 'Peniston' to 'Penis'
Revision as of 06:22, 20 May 2011 by 96.236.7.10 - changing 'Peniston' to 'Penis'

Uzerakount (talk) 19:28, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Wizardman (talk · contribs) 16:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There's no excuse for this article having to wait three months for a review, so I'll try to get to this in a couple days. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 16:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here's my first round of comments:

Before I start on the prose part, I noticed a few spots where there are 5+ references ending a sentence. Is there a reason for that? It seems to be overkill.
I don't consider myspace a reliable source, especially for where it's being used. Replace them.
Same for youtube, but only one instance of the three is an issue for me (ref 75), replace that one. I'd prefer a better site for the one time imdb is used as well, though it's okay in this case.
"After earning her diploma, she would continue to study liberal arts at the Phoenix College where she got involved in athletics, and took entering beauty pageants. " she continued to study...and entered beauty pageants.
I'm not sure if the two large block quotes in the controversies section is useful. having some form of quotes is helpful in this case, but I don't think we need the entire back-and-forth.

Once these are addressed, I'll start tackling the prose. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 16:01, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some more prose comments:

There are a lot of instances of "she would". Make the prose more active in those cases, i.e. She reacted rather than she would react.
Are four sound clips really necessary? One or two would perhaps make sense since it is a bio on a singer, but more than that feels like a violation of non-free guidelines.
"Peniston began writing pop lyrics already at school." 'already at school' feels odd, reword this sentence.
"asked Peniston to record back-up vocals for Tonya Davis" her stage name is linked right after this, so the link on Tonya Davis can be removed.
"When Delgado, who'd preferred Peniston instead, brought his favorite in to do background part, the response from everyone would be immediate, but would not move the Pooch to invite Peniston back for more vocals – unless she was successful to locate Sallard." very confusing as worded. If Delgado likes Peniston, why did he pass? Sounds contradictory and needs some rewording anyway.
"Later on, as it became clear that the singer was leaping from the Overweight Pooch's album to the top of the charts," huh? Sentences like this are puff and need to be cut down. In fact, the entire paragraph that starts with this needs a rewrite, preferably from another editor to catch any issues.
"Delgado called on a hometown friend and music producer too, Rodney K. Jackson (they two met through mutual friends in Arizona)," another issue I'm seeing is an overindulgence on adding little trivia bits. This could easily just say 'Delgado called on friend and music producer Rodney K. Jackson,' without losing any meaning, and actually making it look more encyclopedic.
"the “Finally” session would after the final approval of A&M's Vice President, Mark Mazzetti,[26] result in recording her own debut album" this sentence feels like it's written backwards. Move the result part after would.
"The song burst on to the US club scene in the fall of 1991, where became an instant dance anthem peaking, in October,[10] " onto is one words, no comma is needed after peaking, where it became, and the tone's not that good on this sentence.
"However, she "had two months to pull the whole album together" and "didn’t realize the impact the record was having until it reached the top five". She also described how difficult it was to begin her career at such an extreme pace, but [4]" there's gotta be a cite after the quotes, and I have no idea what cite 4 there goes to, since it's tossed in mid-sentence.
"Both, the single and album" no comma here. There's a lot of sentence that seem to have commas where they shouldn't.
Most of the issues noted above are evident throughout the article, not just in the spot that I note it.

All in all, I feel bad for saying this since clearly a huge amount of work went into this article, but to make GA status it honestly needs a complete rewrite. The prose is not good at all, and while there's a lot of detail, some puff sentences can be cut easily and make the article both better in regards to prose and a bit shorter. After all the issues I noted are fixed and the article modified, I would send it to PR first before coming to GAN again, just to make sure the prose is up to snuff. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 04:25, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

/sarcasm:Wow two typos and it fails GA status. Go figure. ☼Phrasia☼ (talk) 07:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure how you only see two typos in what Wizardman wrote. The "she would" stuff is why I came here to comment, but I see it's already been brought up. -Phoenixrod (talk) 05:44, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Peniston envy?

The sentence "Tonya Davis, pregnant at the time of recording her album, would swear though, she harbored no Peniston envy" is cute, but come on, please rephrase. And who is Tonya Davis? That wasn't clarified. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 23:38, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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