Talk:Cast a Giant Shadow

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Needs a lot more work

The plot summary of this article was one of the most outstandingly bad pieces of writing I've ever seen on Wikipedia. It flagrantly violated WP:NPOV, not just with regard to the quality of the film but with reference to the 1948 war. Somebody who has seen the film and who doesn't have a very strong pro-Israel axe to grind needs to revise it, as all I could do was remove the worst bits. I haven't seen the film so I couldn't complete the synopsis. I have to say, it sounds awful. I am very interested in the history of Israel and in Israeli movies, but Hollywood's record with films on Israeli subjects is not good. Lexo (talk) 17:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nebulous

"At some point in the Second World War, Marcus parachuted into France to free the citizens from the Nazis and planned the relief mission for the first concentration camp liberated by the troops from the United States."

So, did this Superman single-handedly free the entire French nation from the Nazis while he simultaneously planned the relief mission for the unspecified camp?

92.251.155.219 (talk) 23:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

POV

"Hollywood's record with films on Israeli subjects is not good"

POV? A stranger to irony?

92.251.155.219 (talk) 23:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Want to sign your contributions in future, please? Also, if you want to say something, say it. I can't be bothered to try and guess what you meant by that. Lexo (talk) 13:13, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this is a very good movie. It encapsulates a lot about the events that lead to creation of the state of Israel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.234.179.52 (talk) 18:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The quality of the movie is irrelevant. It's still a poor article. Lexo (talk) 13:13, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

'Historical accuracy' section needed

This movie has long been portrayed as a historical "biography" of Col. David Marcus. -- as the opening credits report: "The major events in (the movie) actually happened. ... The major characters actually lived." Of course, there's too much Hollywood war-movie show-biz in this "big" motion picture for it to all be exactly true. This seemingly calls for a "Historical accuracy" section, that documents how accurate the show is, to the historical truth -- and how misleading or falsely dramatized.

For sources, I'd suggest:

this article in the official U.S. Army journal Army History, Winter 2016, and
this memoir of one of his wartime colleagues, "My Service With Colonel David Marcus" by John J. Maginnis, and
this booklet about him -- Col. David ("Mickey") Marcus: A Soldier for all Humanity based on interviews with his acquaintances, conducted by Zipporah Porath, for the American Veterans of Israel Corp. (AVI) and the American Jewish Historical Society

While these sources all clearly lionize Marcus, perhaps somewhat beyond pure facts, they nevertheless appear more restrained and reserved than the laudatory movie and book Cast a Giant Shadow -- and appear to call into question some of that movie / book duo's more dramatic assertions.

~ Zxtxtxz (talk) 20:23, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]