Talk:Cassie Jaye

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Notability

Is Jaye independently notable per WP:NBIO? Is she notable for anything other than Red Pill? If not, this should be made back into a redirect. Grayfell (talk) 21:55, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Her IMDB page lists several other works. Her bio says her previous works have won several awards.--Stormwatch (talk) 21:10, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

While taking no position on whether or not she is notable, I'll note that imdb is not a reliable source and cannot be used to establish her notability. --Yamla (talk) 21:15, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'll also point out this edit was in poor taste. The previous edit was not vandalism. You are in a content dispute on whether or not Cassie Jaye should have an article, separate from The Red Pill. That's a reasonable thing to discuss. But accusing people on the other side of your position of vandalism is inappropriate. --Yamla (talk) 21:16, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What I see here is unpersoning.--Stormwatch (talk) 21:22, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, the dystopian future Orwell predicted where people ~~were erased from existence~~ had their Wikipedia articles redirect to their most notable works. Comparing this to being vaporized... Good lord, have some perspective. Grayfell (talk) 22:13, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Perspective, noun: the act of not making a peep when you see censorship happening.--Stormwatch (talk) 00:25, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) IMDB isn't reliable, per WP:ELPEREN. I'm very reluctant to give too much credence to awards mentioned in a likely self-authored bio. Considering the existence of Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity ("Inspired by the Cannes Film Festival"), I don't accept that the Cannes Independent Film Festival is noteworthy, or is even what it sounds like, without a good source explaining it.

What's a Telly Award? Is that the Indian Telly Awards? That raised more questions than it answers.

And so on... This will need reliable sources before the article is restored. Grayfell (talk) 21:19, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is simply absurd; a woman with as much notoriety as Cassie Jaye should absolutely have her own page. Would anyone like a list of other Wikipedia articles about people with much more limited works, yet inexplicably have their own pages? Tommy Wiseau comes immediately to mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BadMojoMagic (talk • contribs) 16:38, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Great. It'll be really easy for you to find reliable citations establishing the notability, then. Please do so immediately; the article has been nominated for deletion. Remember, IMDB is not a reliable source. --Yamla (talk) 16:48, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, I would love a list of other Wikipedia articles about people with limited works. There is a lot of spam on Wikipedia, and every little bit helps, right? Tommy Wiseau is not a good example, though, since he has multiple notable works and has substantial coverage of his career separate from any one film he's done. This isn't about how good someone is, this is about sources. Grayfell (talk) 20:58, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add my 2 cents (USD cents - as of 2018 when the penny still exists), I came here specifically to learn who Cassie Jaye was. People do say "don't trust Wikipedia" all the time, but my general feeling is that it's a good starting point at least. It at least is easier than going down 5 or 6 different Internet Rabbit Holes (TM), looking for scraps of information. (The only articles I really trust are math or (hard) science articles.) There is the whole "Wiki self-correction" mechanism. Jimw338 (talk) 03:02, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't mind, what prompted your curiosity? By that I mean what, exactly, was the context of which her name was introduced to you? If this was related to The Red Pill, would a redirect to that article have answered your questions? Did the place you found her name mention or indicate any other activity beyond men's rights/The Red Pill? Grayfell (talk) 03:15, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I knew about the Red Pill movie, but not exactly what it was. But I read an, er.. "opinion" that suggested that she was a template for the character of Serena Joy in the new Handmaid's Tale (TVTropes - Handmaid's Tale: "Wild Mass Guessing") Other guesses were Kellyanne Conway (the hair) and Phyllis Schafly's niece Suzanne Venker, or "FOX News Talking Heads". Jimw338 (talk) 20:02, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. Thanks. Grayfell (talk) 20:22, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is my first contribution to Wikipedia. Cassie Jaye delivers a Tedx Talk viewed online more than two million times. The discussion in that talk relates to compelling and current issues about media suppression of free speech and open debate. If this rising activist comes up for review again, this information would seem to be relevant. Starshack (talk) 11:05, 28 October 2018 (UTC) — Starshack (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

I confess/admit that I came to Cassie Jaye's page having seen that she is the director of 'The Red Pill' (a documentary I first heard about yesterday). My reason for doing so was to learn more about her, especially prior to her doing 'The Red Pill'. What other works had she done? How old is she? What was her upbringing? I am thankful that she does have her own Wikipedia page. Documentary film-makers have a disproportionate voice on the topics they 'document'; I find it prudent to obtain -some- sort of background on who they are/were. Tom1976Sydney (talk) 10:11, 20 July 2020 (UTC) — Tom1976Sydney (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]