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still a "fad diet"

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What do you say about Vilhjalmur Stefansson? Hernance (talk) 10:59, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not a long-term study. He practiced a meat diet as an experiment for 1 year in a non-controlled study funded by American Meat Institute. Laboratory observations were only made at selected intervals. At the end of the year, he was given glucose water and orange juice and went back to an ordinary mixed diet. If you read the earliest reports written by researchers who made the observations on Stefansson, they were very clear in their conclusion "The diet was expensive, caused some social inconveniences, and was not one to be recommended for universal use" [1]. Psychologist Guy (talk) 13:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Owsley Stanley ate a carnivorous diet for 50+ years. The term "fad diet" is a pejorative and should be removed in order to have a neutral point of view. Meistro1 (talk) 12:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There would probably need to be at least one regulatory body giving it a recommendation. Or prominent scientific researchers. NutmegCoffeeTea (she/her) (talk) 12:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are correct that Owsley Stanley did follow a carnivore diet. However, you forgot to mention that he had a major heart attack in his late 60s (bizarrely he tried to blame his heart attack on a piece of broccoli he ate as a child); he also had throat cancer [2], [3], [4] Psychologist Guy (talk) 22:27, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Biased article

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This entire article is a hit piece. Meistro1 (talk) 12:47, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Care to explain why? Perhaps you can suggest ways to improve it with decent citations. Sklabb (talk) 14:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Literally every single sentence in this article is negative. There is ZERO attempt to maintain a neutral point of view, in direct contradiction of wikipedia policy. There isn't even a section for benefits, and when I attempted to add one, you deleted it. Meistro1 (talk) 16:57, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's also factually incorrect to describe it as a high protein diet. It is a high fat diet. A carnivorous diet must be high fat, moderate protein, with zero or virtually zero carbs. Meistro1 (talk) 16:59, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yup. Seems like WP:BIGMISTAKE strikes again. Bon courage (talk) 18:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The aim is to represent a neutral point of view from all reliable sources. That is why I suggested you provide reliable sources on the views you feel are missing. Without those, there is not much that can be done. Sklabb (talk) 21:05, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I provided a reputable source, you deleted it. I suggest that instead of you deleting my work, we aim to establish consensus. Meistro1 (talk) 17:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For a biomedical claim, that the health of humans is, please look up WP:MEDRS.
This is held to higher standards than typical text and is essential to WP's neutrality. Imagine I would use a case studies against the carnivore diet, is this a good enough source to show carnivore is bad for sports? Female carnivore athlete improves with fruits: https://journalofexerciseandnutrition.com/index.php/JEN/article/download/173/161 Sklabb (talk) 23:34, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can you list some of the sources here? NutmegCoffeeTea (she/her) (talk) 06:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]