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China's involvement

Chinese names for portuguese

Portugal (佛朗機)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/2237

Fo-lang-ji (佛郎機)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/471

Pu-li-du-jia (蒲麗都家)

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/place/1347

In 1517 vice commisioner wang hong starts defeating the portuguese, who were kidnapping boys and girls

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2198

In 1518 when portuguese envoys arrive, they are rejected by china on the grounds that there is no country called fo lang ji (portugal) in the southern ocean and they are not to be trusted

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2303

Chinese Portuguese (fo-lang-ji) battles

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2465 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2466 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2553 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/466 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/793 http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/1721

Other

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/291

China forced portuguese to surrender and hand over advanced weapons technology

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2204

In 1524 chinese military at nanjing asks for technicians from guangdong to reverse engineer the captured portuguese cannon and supply them to nanjing

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/793

In 1530 china mentions wang hong's victory over the portuguese a few years earlier

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/1877

In 1547 chinese defeat portuguese at zhang-zhou, fujian

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/3044

In 1549 Zhu Wan captures portuguese commander "kings" in zhejiang and fujian

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/3074

In 1550 china defeats portuguese at zhangzhou

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/3088

In 1565, a portuguese pretending to be malaccan comes to china to offer tribute, and then says he is from portugal, china then says there is no such country as portugal in the southern ocean so he must be a fo lang ji, and rejects him as untrustworthy

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/3245

In 1591 huang ying-jia discusses the effectiveness of portuguese cannon

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/2794

In 1610 Ministry of war submits chen zi-zhen's proposals on using portuguese "senior general" guns against japan

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/3202

1606 alleged conspiracy invasion involving the jesuits and portuguese

http://books.google.com/books?id=oQ8BFk9K0ToC&pg=PA437#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=zERymZzBQQYC&pg=PA46#v=onepage&q&f=false

In 1617, china suspects catholic missionaries of being portuguese and accuse them of spreading heretical doctrines

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/3254

In 1619 china discusses the portuguese at macau. They formerly paid taxes and then suddenly embarked on expansion in the surrounding area, keeping japanese as their underlings

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/3273

In 1621 china has 12 portuguese guns at the military headquarters for the capital training divisions

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/290

A chinese envoy to malacca

http://epress.nus.edu.sg/msl/entry/794

http://books.google.com/books?id=RE5vls1XeEgC&pg=PA226#v=onepage&q&f=false

Page133

When the Portuguese tried to come to China as conquerors, however, they suffered setbacks they had never suffered before.

http://books.google.com/books?ei=InEHUZ36J9HV0gH66oDQBw&id=FTptAAAAMAAJ&dq=When+the+Portuguese+tried+to+come+to+China+as+conquerors%2C+however%2C+they+suffered+setbacks+they+had+never+suffered&q=tried+conquerors+suffered+setbacks#search_anchor

http://books.google.com/books?id=FTptAAAAMAAJ&q=When+the+Portuguese+tried+to+come+to+China+as+conquerors,+however,+they+suffered+setbacks+they+had+never+suffered&dq=When+the+Portuguese+tried+to+come+to+China+as+conquerors,+however,+they+suffered+setbacks+they+had+never+suffered&hl=en&sa=X&ei=InEHUZ36J9HV0gH66oDQBw&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA

http://books.google.com/books?id=c9SKjnHkRfwC&pg=PA227#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=4njUAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=BP1MAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA118#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=5z8OAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA7#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=eiVOAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA165#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=zKRBAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA2-PA42#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=faNDAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA45#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=orIBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA283#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=h82D-Y0E3TwC&pg=PR40#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=XGb-hkiTeYkC&pg=PA156#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=0x1Io6VOuAIC&pg=PA734#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=urkLAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA177#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=UM0WAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA177#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ngJYq5GsG4MC&pg=PA23#v=onepage&q&f=false

The Chinese accused the Portuguese leader Simao de Andrade of roasting and eating Chinese children, while Portuguese chronicles admit that Simao kidnapped children to sell them. This should be edited into the article regarding China's reaction to the Portuguese.

http://books.google.com/books?id=tVhvh6ibLJcC&pg=PA338#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=zERymZzBQQYC&pg=PA28#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=tMsNAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA5#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=x-tJAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA652#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=RE5vls1XeEgC&pg=PA226#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=1AAVAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA48#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=c9SKjnHkRfwC&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=h82D-Y0E3TwC&pg=PR39#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=5q4NHzPQOccC&pg=PA136#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=4njUAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA15#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=4njUAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA17#v=onepage&q&f=false

Page 109

http://books.google.com/books?id=h6gZXAcgRHcC&pg=PT127#v=onepage&q&f=false

Page 429

http://books.google.com/books?id=ImVDAAAAYAAJ&q=Simao+exasperated+sons+daughters&dq=Simao+exasperated+sons+daughters&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YIYIUYH7Muy30QHQ2oCQDA&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAg

Page 143

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZOc-AQAAIAAJ&q=simao+roasted&dq=simao+roasted&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Z4IIUYHRKc-K0QH6y4HoDQ&ved=0CDQQ6AEwATgU

Page xix

http://books.google.com/books?id=jHFwAAAAMAAJ&q=simao+roasted&dq=simao+roasted&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Z4IIUYHRKc-K0QH6y4HoDQ&ved=0CFAQ6AEwBzgU

Page xxxix

http://books.google.com/books?id=kXjgAAAAMAAJ&q=simao+roasted&dq=simao+roasted&hl=en&sa=X&ei=O4MIUbjhB-i40gH23ICwAw&ved=0CF4Q6AEwCTgy

Page 23

http://books.google.com/books?id=52kfAQAAIAAJ&q=simao+roasted&dq=simao+roasted&hl=en&sa=X&ei=D4MIUY2wEs-90QHD5YGIDg&ved=0CDUQ6AEwATgo

Page 451

http://books.google.com/books?id=kDMZAAAAIAAJ&q=simao+roasted&dq=simao+roasted&hl=en&sa=X&ei=aYMIUYv-CeLD0QG1roCoDQ&ved=0CDQQ6AEwATg8

China demanded that the portuguese hand back melaka to the sultan

http://books.google.com/books?id=tVhvh6ibLJcC&pg=PA340#v=onepage&q&f=false

Sack of Malacca

http://books.google.com/books?id=ngJYq5GsG4MC&pg=PA24#v=onepage&q&f=false

Portuguese conquest of malacca and the massacre of the population.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ol6K4ef_c5wC&pg=PA461#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=R-a2moz_taMC&pg=PT429#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=sJFTWMVybVIC&pg=PA92#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=AxWLxjyOUooC&pg=PA339#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=AxWLxjyOUooC&pg=PA340#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=PgYHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA166#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=smdvgymPbiEC&pg=PA13#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=UcGG8UIkEsoC&pg=PA56#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=0x1Io6VOuAIC&pg=PA518#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.sabrizain.org/malaya/library/captureofmalacca.pdf

I'm not sure if it is anti-Arabism per se or just anti-Islam, since Portugal came out from under Muslim rule and developed a very strong anti-Islamic sentiment. They seemed to have deliberately seperated Arabs frok others in their Indian Ocean campaigns for brutal treatment

http://books.google.com/books?id=yUYFAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA461&dq=Arab+portuguese+slaughter&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YVVvUofeKYbXkQfOj4DYAQ&ved=0CEMQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Arab%20portuguese%20slaughter&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=UW4KAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA461&dq=Arab+portuguese+slaughter&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YVVvUofeKYbXkQfOj4DYAQ&ved=0CEkQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Arab%20portuguese%20slaughter&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=nXIKAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA461&dq=Arab+portuguese+slaughter&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YVVvUofeKYbXkQfOj4DYAQ&ved=0CE8Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Arab%20portuguese%20slaughter&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=aAgi_5xIVBMC&pg=PT142&dq=Arab+portuguese+slaughter&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YVVvUofeKYbXkQfOj4DYAQ&ved=0CFQQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Arab%20portuguese%20slaughter&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=9lOrrFgCZIgC&pg=PA465&dq=Arab+portuguese+slaughter&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YVVvUofeKYbXkQfOj4DYAQ&ved=0CFoQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Arab%20portuguese%20slaughter&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=0fAHAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA414&dq=Arab+portuguese+slaughter&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YVVvUofeKYbXkQfOj4DYAQ&ved=0CGAQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Arab%20portuguese%20slaughter&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=ff4HAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA414&dq=Arab+portuguese+slaughter&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YVVvUofeKYbXkQfOj4DYAQ&ved=0CGYQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Arab%20portuguese%20slaughter&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=B5PeMDWgrwUC&pg=PA414&dq=Arab+portuguese+slaughter&hl=en&sa=X&ei=YVVvUofeKYbXkQfOj4DYAQ&ved=0CGwQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=Arab%20portuguese%20slaughter&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=hZsIAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA419&dq=Arab+portuguese+slaughter&hl=en&sa=X&ei=k1VvUoDjCsmrkAe7g4GIAQ&ved=0CD0Q6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=Arab%20portuguese%20slaughter&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=5fUHAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA414&dq=Enhance+terror+separated+arabs+cut+right+hand+nose+women&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rFZvUqnlBoT1kQef_oCwAQ&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Enhance%20terror%20separated%20arabs%20cut%20right%20hand%20nose%20women&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=wTMHAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA414&dq=Enhance+terror+separated+arabs+cut+right+hand+nose+women&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rFZvUqnlBoT1kQef_oCwAQ&ved=0CEcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Enhance%20terror%20separated%20arabs%20cut%20right%20hand%20nose%20women&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=iZIIAAAAQBAJ&pg=PT263&dq=Enhance+terror+separated+arabs+cut+right+hand+nose+women&hl=en&sa=X&ei=rFZvUqnlBoT1kQef_oCwAQ&ved=0CGMQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Enhance%20terror%20separated%20arabs%20cut%20right%20hand%20nose%20women&f=false