Talk:Cape Dezhnyov
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Coordinates
[edit]Are the coordinates the right ones? In dewiki they write 66° 4' 44.884185671808154 N and 169° 39' 6.8719482421875 W. --Obersachse 21:36, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
- Your coordinates match the satellite pictures, so I'm using the present German Wikipedia coordinates 66° 4′ 45″ N and 169° 39′ 7″ W. For next time, if you don't want to correct coordinates yourself, I just discovered Category:Talk pages requiring geodata verification. Art LaPella (talk) 23:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
10000 km?
[edit]Hi.
Are you sure you got the 10000 KM distance figure for the distance from this cape to Cape Baba in Turkey right? According to the Google Earth program, the distance is only 8000 KM. What gives? mike4ty4 20:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with this objection also. Furthermore, the furthest dimension in mainland Asia goes from Cape Dezhnev to Yemen at the Bab-el-Mandeb strait, not Turkey. You can approximately measure this by using a piece of paper on a globe, which is accurate enough to tell that the tip of Yemen is further than Turkey, India or Singapore. For a more exact measurement I'm using this. I didn't mention the furthest dimension in Asia including its islands, because that would be Big Diomede Island not Cape Dezhnev, and because it depends on whether Papua New Guinea and Franz Josef Land are considered part of Asia. Art LaPella (talk) 00:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Clemens Forrell
[edit]Is there any evidence that this character was based on a real individual, I was sure that opinion on him was that he was entirely fictional??Fenix down (talk) 12:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- Although Clemens Forell (note: one "r") wasn't his real name, the book cover says it's a true story. Googling "Clemens Forell" didn't turn up anyone who doubts it. Art LaPella (talk) 17:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry I didn't see this for ages for some reason, but surely no one doubting this does not make it fact. the fact that the name has been changed means that this is to all intents and purposes a novel and I'm not sure should be indicated as anything other. thanks for the spelling correction. Fenix down (talk) 22:40, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- According to Wikipedia's Clemens Forell article, "Journalists later tracked down the original figure, Cornelius Rost (1922-1983), who never wanted to become known due to fear of KGB prosecution." If there was an "original figure", that implies the story really happened. If you believe otherwise, I suppose you should change that article also. I would think an uncontradicted book makes the story as true as anything on Wikipedia. "Verifiability, not truth". Art LaPella (talk) 23:20, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- I think I will do a little more research into both articles, paritulcarly given that the Clemens Forell article is completely uncited, with only book review and film links provided. Fenix down (talk) 10:33, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
- According to Wikipedia's Clemens Forell article, "Journalists later tracked down the original figure, Cornelius Rost (1922-1983), who never wanted to become known due to fear of KGB prosecution." If there was an "original figure", that implies the story really happened. If you believe otherwise, I suppose you should change that article also. I would think an uncontradicted book makes the story as true as anything on Wikipedia. "Verifiability, not truth". Art LaPella (talk) 23:20, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry I didn't see this for ages for some reason, but surely no one doubting this does not make it fact. the fact that the name has been changed means that this is to all intents and purposes a novel and I'm not sure should be indicated as anything other. thanks for the spelling correction. Fenix down (talk) 22:40, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
The article strangely doesn't say anything about any gulag camp at the cape. Was there any? Or the story is fictional indeed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.90.128.199 (talk) 15:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Please be advised that Josef Bauer's "As Far As My Feet Will Carry Me" appears to be a work of fiction, not of fact. Please consult the Wikipedia article on Cornelius Rost for details. In order to avoid possible future misunderstandings, I added a paragraph to the History section of the article indicating that the supposed historically accurate tale is quite dubious.Wsjacobs (talk) 03:41, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Nordenskiold suggestion
[edit]My understanding is that Nordenskiold's suggestion was made in Voyage of the Vega in 1881 and that the official renaming was suggested circa 1898 by Yuliy Shokal'skiy, president of the Imperial Geographical Society. I have not put this in the article because I have not seen the refs first-hand. We probably should mention Nordenskiold's suggestion. Russian WP does not qualify as a source.Dankarl (talk) 18:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
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