Talk:Canada All-Stars/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: BeanieFan11 (talk · contribs) 02:36, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: WikiOriginal-9 (talk · contribs) 12:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

• I changed the disestablishments cat from 1876 to 1875. Article doesn't mention 1877.
• "while the others each were players from Montreal" Remove each, not necessary here.
  • Removed.
• "with 15 players on the field for each side in the positions of "tenders", "half-tenders" and "rushers". That source just has Harvard like that. If we're being picky, it doesn't say the Canadian team was like that.
  • Not sure what I'd say then? Thoughts?
    • "with the 15 Harvard players listed in the positions of "tenders", "half-tenders" and "rushers"." ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• Is "Kenred Eardley–Wilmot" one person? I believe the dash there is just supposed to be a "-" per other hyphenated names on Wikipedia.
  • Changed, as it is one person.
• I'm not really seeing the name "Canada All-Stars" in the sources? Sports Reference does call them that though.
  • I was going based on the Sports-Reference name for the team. Newspaper reports usually called it "the Canadian team" or the "All-Canada team" – not sure if that'd be better.
    • Maybe just lowercase it to Canada all-stars. The all-star article is lowercased and I'm not seeing a common name for this team that has All-Stars capitalized. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
      • @WikiOriginal-9: Could lowercase it if you want (just my opinion, but I think uppercase looks nicer) – though worth noting that although 'all-stars' is lowercase, it seems almost everything else titled 'all-stars' is uppercase (e.g. other early football teams in Western Pennsylvania All-Star, Buffalo All-Stars, All-Tonawanda All-Stars, St. Louis All-Stars, although some of those admittedly have more coverage referring to them by that name in uppercase). Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

        I know what you mean about it looking better but the only source that says "Canada All-Stars" is that Sports Reference page. Even though there aren't any sources for "Canada all-stars" lowercased, and All-Canada doesn't appear to be the name either (one of the sources says a team "picked from all Canada"). Most of the sources just say "the Canadian team" or some variant like the Canadians. This is a strange case but I don't think there is a common name for this team... Hmm... I guess we can just leave it how it is. It passed DYK like this. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:47, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• In the second note, it looks like the sentence "Eardley–Wilmot, Gough, Gross, Smith and Stewart were from Quebec" is duplicated?
  • Removed duplication.
• It's probably safe to categorize this as a Canadian football team, right? The early rugby Canadian teams are called Canadian football teams here on Wikipedia (see also Canadian_football#History). It looks like the "Foot Ball Association of Canada" is also mentioned at that article. Looks like you already tagged this with WP:Canadian football.
  • I think it'd be fine to categorize it as such. Is there any change that'd you'd suggest?
    • I added it to Category:Defunct Canadian football teams. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
• In regards to the ref in the lead, the stuff that is citing needs to be moved down to the body, probably in the Background section.
  • Moved it.
• Lead is a little short but don't think there's really anything else to add there that would be lead-worthy...
• Let's just remove the question mark from the infobox. The question mark makes an empty parentheses appear, which looks weird.
  • Removed.

I think that's everything. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 12:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) @WikiOriginal-9: BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
  • "The game was played on the Montreal cricket ground, under the Canadian rules" I didn't see in the two sources where it said Canadian rules but maybe I missed it? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 19:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
    • I don't see it either in the two refs cited; although later on there's a Boston Evening Transcript piece mentioning that Harvard "badly discomfited the picked array of champions ... at their own game" – which seems to verify it (I'll add it to the sentence). BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

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