Talk:Can't Help Falling in Love

When was it written?

I thought it was written in 1919 tommylommykins 16:34, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

hello? If it was written earlier then we need to delete the date on the main page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommylommykins (talk • contribs) 07:21, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

it was definitely not written in 1919- do a little bit more research, friend. 203.37.239.88 (talk) 01:02, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Cover versions

there was a cover version by the band 'lick the tins' but i cant find any info on them anywhere.??helpp?Daniel625 01:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

This song was covered by the female singer Marmalade. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kishkash04 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

"Fools Rush In"?

Isn't this song called 'Fools Rush In'?? That has always been the impression that i've gotten. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.168.164.70 (talk) 11:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe there's a different song called Fools Rush In, from the doo wop era. 130.101.100.153 12:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Merge

Merge They are the same song. 130.101.100.153 12:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

AgreedMpassman 15:40, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I dissagree, it's not the same song ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.212.83.236 (talk) 23:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The original music for this song was in reality a piece of classical music called Plaisir d'amour ("Pleasure of Love") which was written by the composer Giovanni Martini (1741-1816) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.176.34.181 (talk) 15:57, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

The Who?

Seems to me that the main chorus of this song was used in The Who's "Real Good Looking Boy", as the intro piano melody and once as a chorus. Anybody want to comment? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.111.17.121 (talk) 13:47, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

I just heard Real Good Looking Boy on Pandora and it is credited to The Who and dated 2004. So the entry under additional versions seems fine. There was an entry under Covers which references the version by The Who, but since it is not a real cover song and it did not specify any particular band I removed that from the list. 207.38.221.16 (talk) 02:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Why Prominence to the A*Teens Version?

The A*Teens version was just a radio hit and never successful in the US charts and a minor single reached #12 in Sweden, #16 in Argentina and #41 in Australia, hardly meritting the prominent place that they have been given alongside the Elvis Preseley and UB40 versions which were veritable huge successes. I suggest relegating the A*Teens version to the section of all the other artists who have done far more memorable versions. I've added a few actually werldwayd (talk) 12:15, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

It's an infobox and a paragraph, which many editors consider to be minimal coverage for a released single. Any chance you could increase converage on some of the versions you consider to be more notable?—Kww(talk) 13:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Elvis Presley's version

Hello! Why was the section "Elvis Presley's version" deleted?? You can still read it in the old versions of this page or in: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Can%27t+Help+Falling+in+Love I think it was a good paragraph. GastonSenac (talk) 01:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

UB40 did it better. That had to be said. Sorry.--24.177.0.156 (talk) 22:29, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

but this isn't a page about UB40 s version- it is elvis presley and his origional "cant help falling in love" 203.37.239.88 (talk) 01:04, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Anti-war song?

Why is this listed as an anti-war song in the categories? marbeh raglaim (talk) 18:58, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I too just discovered and removed these two categories. If you object, let's talk about it. Men have feelings too, you know.

Category:Anti-war songs

Category:Protest songs

Carptrash (talk) 06:03, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

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Robert Schumann

It has a very similar melody to Shumann's op. 15 "1. Von fremden Landern und Menschen". (1' 04). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.188.216.155 (talk) 06:10, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Hardly. That has a repeated first line, then the beginning of another repeat before moving into a variant and then resolving, then the whole theme is answered. Plasir d'amour matches harmonically throughout and melodically but for the second and third beats.--Hugh7 (talk) 07:08, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

On that one is more notable.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.188.216.155 (talk) 06:10, 17 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.188.234.157 (talk)

Original Recording Descrepancy

Certainly the most popular version of Can't Help Falling In Love, was recorded by Elvis Presley. It was his first version that spawned so many other versions by various other artists, including newer versions by him as well. However, in the first paragraph of this document, it says that the song was originally recorded by Elvis Presley in 1961. Further down under the category, "Additional Versions," there is a reference to actor Montgomery Cliff playing and singing the song in 1949 in a movie titled, "The Heiress." This recording would certainly pre-date the one by Elvis Presley. A song for a film also constitutes a "recording." If the version by Elvis Presley is the first version released for sale to the public on a record, perhaps that should be said for purposes of clarity. 96.231.44.9 (talk) 04:34, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Recently halved "Other versions" list needs restoring

Someone recently halved the "Other versions" listing on 21 July 2015, albeit in good faith, quoting "Other versions: trim per WP:SONGCOVER... Singles are notable but most album tracks are not, nor are most live performances" as their rationale, and the 24,268 bytes section was reduced by a hefty -11,133 bytes. But WP:SONGCOVER is obsolete - it redirects to Wikipedia:WikiProject Songs and on that page there's no such recommendation or guideline about deleting album versions, except insofar as it says under "Cover versions/multiple renditions" that inclusion is okay if "the rendition itself meets the notability requirement at WP:NSONGS." - although WP:NSONGS is also obsolete, redirecting to "Wikipedia:Notability (music)" and the "Songs" section of "Wikipedia:Notability (music)" says that Songs with notable cover versions are normally covered in one common article about the song and the cover versions.). Meanwhile other people have started to "add" versions they think are missing, not knowing they were recently deleted en masse, and the list will now start to get a bit messy as the process continues. For example someone recently added an all-too short "Twenty One Pilots in 2013". But the pre-July list had a much better (fully informative and cite-referenced) entry for that cover version (quote: "Twenty One Pilots covered the song on their 2012 UK exclusive EP, Holding On To You. A live music video was also released on YouTube for the cover.") Ultimately the mass-deletion has led to a situation of one step forwards, two steps back... Take Dylan's cover version as another example - significant enough to be mentioned in the Lede, but nowhere else in the article! The pre-July list included it, giving a good short explanation of its significance (Quote: "Bob Dylan recorded a version of this song for the New Morning sessions in 1970, which was released by Columbia against his will on the 1973 album, Dylan (Columbia Records).") But as the page stands now, the Dylan version's notability can't be understood. Some slight pruning of the listing on 21 July 2015 may have been needed - it was a long list - but the mass deletion of every non-single was like throwing the baby out with the bath water. A cover version doesn't always have to be a single to be significant. The 21 July list should be restored, and then retitled "Significant versions by other artists", and then pruned according to notability - not just according to whether or not a single. Pete Hobbs (talk) 18:43, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Crazy Rich Asians

My edit to include a cover of the song in Crazy Rich Asians and its associated soundtrack was reverted because of "trivial WP:IPC use/WP:COVERSONG". The cover has received significant coverage in media publication including Bustle, Slate, The Oklahoman, Elite Daily, and Entertainment Weekly. I think this speaks that the cover is more than trivial. Pinging User:SummerPhDv2.0 if she would like to comment. Shuipzv3 (talk) 03:34, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes, it's certainly in the film, but that clearly doesn't demonstrate a significant impact on popular culture, per WP:IPC.

That leaves WP:COVERSONG. Essentially, for inclusion here the project is looking for "the rendition is discussed by a reliable source on the subject of the song," or "the rendition itself meets the notability requirement at WP:NSONGS." The other covers pass WP:NSONG (if weakly) on their own by having charted. From what you added, I got that the cover exists. The coverage in the sources given is mixed. One says the artist is on the soundtrack, but stops short of saying anything about this song. Of the rest, all but Bustle say little more than "I really like this and other people do to" (thought the prediction it will be used as a lot of weddings would be worth mention. Bustle has something to say about the song, but none of that comes through in "An acoustic version sung by Kina Grannis appears in the 2018 film Crazy Rich Asians and the accompanying soundtrack." If we're going to include it based on the rave in Bustle (which I had no clue existed), I think we should include something from it. Knowing that the source is there, I'd be fine with adding it. I'd encourage you to add some of the substance. Otherwise, it risks looking like just another random cover that exists and nothing more. - SummerPhD^v2.0 04:37, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

I'll add the charting position. Thank you for your insight. Shuipzv3 (talk) 05:40, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

The song was written specifically for Elvis/Blue Hawaii

There's a claim in this article that the song was originally written from the perspective of a woman, on the basis of a broken rhyme scheme. However, if you actually look at the underlying source, it's a For Dummies book, which in turn cites no sources. Suspicious, I performed a few searches for the putative title of this supposed demo, "Can't Help Falling in Love with Him", and what I found seems like a pretty bad case of citogenesis. Almost every article I could find copied this article's wording verbatim, and none cited any independent sources (or even this one).

Seemingly at a dead end, I thought to search for interviews of the song's listed writers. Though there were no interviews with Hugo Paretti that I could find, both George David Weiss and Luigi Creatore were independently very clear before they died: The song had been written for the scene it appears in; it was not a repurposed composition that had been lying on the shelf! A Star-Ledger article from February 1, 1994 even says: "Of the many performers he has worked with, Presley is one of the few he never met, although he wrote "I Can't Help Falling in Love with You" specifically for him, said Weiss. The screenplay for Presley's film Blue Hawaii was the impetus for the song, but Weiss couldn't stand the movie." [emphasis added] [1]

If that Weiss article is insufficient, there's an episode of The Paul Leslie Hour where the host asks Creatore about this song, and he says that it was commissioned through Elvis's publicist and the title (and consequently the song's wonky rhyme scheme) was the product of improvisation. (From their YouTube channel, here is the video, starting at the first Elvis question.) Incidentally, if any of the interviewers had noticed the song's non-rhyme, they never seem to have brought it up with the people who wrote the thing!

I bring this up here rather than attempt to edit it myself because despite the relative age of this account, I'm a fairly green editor. One of the two sources I just gave is primary A/V matter probably under copyright, the other a digital reprint of a print article. I figured I'd rather talk things out with other editors, as seems to be proper etiquette here anyway, and perhaps catch the attention of regulars who would have more resource access. Cheers! Katrina || (I need to get this t.A.T.u. covered up sometime...) 16:40, 27 July 2023 (UTC)