Talk:CSS General Polk/GA1
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Nominator: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 00:57, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 08:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
I will take a look at this shortly. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 08:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Prelim
[edit]- Ironclad is a duplicated link
- Resolved
- Image correctly licensed - are there any directly of Polk?
- Not that I've seen. File:USS Cayuga at Forts Jackson and St. Philip.jpg was in the article before I rewrote it, but that can't be General Polk because Polk wasn't at the Battle of Forts Jackson and St. Philip, which that image portrays.
- Article is stable
- Earwig reports copyvio unlikely
Lede and infobox
[edit]- Suggest adding in the lede that she was a Sidewheel steamer
- Done
- Suggest "launched" instead of "Built" in 1852, as being launched in the year does not guarantee she was also built then
- Done
- "Commissioned into military service on October 22, and was sent to" needs a rejig
- Fixed
- Give the year for October 22
- Done
- Give the exact date for Lucas Bend
- Done
- "June 26, 1862" repeated year
- Removed
- While looking for images of General Polk I saw mention that she was a timberclad?
- This book makes the claim (also that she was armed with Parrott rifles) but neither of these claims are found in the more specialized sources so I am doubtful.
Service history
[edit]- Do we know when the civilian collisions occurred, or have further detail about them? Would be nice to expand the service prior to the ACW
- There might be something in Way's Packet Directory. I've left a note at WT:SHIPS to see if anyone has a copy; if not I will try to get out to Wilson's Creek National Battlefield on a weekend where they supposedly have a copy in the library. If not, I can try to dredge through old newspaper through the Wikipedia library
- "slowed by the weather" what kind of weather?
- Done
- Move the link for Ship launching to the first launch rather than second
- Done
- "On November 10, General Polk, along with two other Confederate gunboats" Is this date correct? Doesn't work chronologically
- Should be November 30. Fixed.
- "two other Confederate gunboats" suggests General Polk was also termed a gunboat, but this isn't mentioned
- I've introduced Polk as a gunboat earlier in the article
- Surely there's more information on Lucas Bend? What did Polk do in the battle, what was the result? Was this related to the earlier following of ships to Fort Holt?
- I've expanded a little on what was going on here; this wasn't much of a battle at all. The Confederates bumped into the ironclads while on a scouting mission, there was a brief exchange of gunfire, and the Confederates withdrew.
- Our article on Lucas Bend gives a completely different composition of the CS forces (and names Polk a cottonclad?)
- Apparently Smith's book on the Union timberclads gives a different Confederate composition; I've scratched the list of Confederate ships entirely. Neither DANFS, Chatelain, nor Canney refer to General Polk as a cottonclad; I suspect the Lucas Bend article is in error.
- "The damage caused the ship to have to be withdrawn from the fighting" Is this the action mentioned in the this source which has General Polk being beached?
- Yes, this is the same action. I've added a sentence from Jones
- "New Orleans was threatened" by what?
- clarified
- Why was the April 12 attack abortive? What happened?
- I've expanded some on this matter
- "two Union ships moved up the Yazoo River" Assume these were warships. Do we know anything more?
- I've added the names and types of these two.
- Where was General Polk burned exactly?
- Liverpool Landing, clarified
Reference
[edit]- References look good. AGF for print sources.
@Hog Farm: Hi, that's all I have for now. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 14:35, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've addressed most of this; I emailed the Wilson's Creek library for a scan of the relevant page from Way's Packet Directory and will update once I hear back about that. Hog Farm Talk 01:57, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- No response from Wilson's Creek on the packet directory; the library is closed except by appointment for now after the librarian retired, but I'll try to get an appointment lined up next week or the week after. Hog Farm Talk 18:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Pickersgill-Cunliffe: - Wilson's Creek finally responded to my email and I've incorporated the material from the packet directory (her captain in 1860 and the date of the Henry Lewis collision). I can try to look for more coverage of the Swallow incident in the old newspapers via the Wikipedia Library, but that service is currently out of order so it'll be an indefinite time before I can get to that. Hog Farm Talk 01:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Hog Farm: Passing this as satisfying the GA criteria. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 09:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Pickersgill-Cunliffe: - Wilson's Creek finally responded to my email and I've incorporated the material from the packet directory (her captain in 1860 and the date of the Henry Lewis collision). I can try to look for more coverage of the Swallow incident in the old newspapers via the Wikipedia Library, but that service is currently out of order so it'll be an indefinite time before I can get to that. Hog Farm Talk 01:57, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- No response from Wilson's Creek on the packet directory; the library is closed except by appointment for now after the librarian retired, but I'll try to get an appointment lined up next week or the week after. Hog Farm Talk 18:46, 15 June 2024 (UTC)