Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in British Columbia/Archive 1

Archive 1

Edit request on 20 March 2020 (Haro Park Centre)

Hi there, I have found five sources about an elderly resident has tested positive on the virus at a retirement home unit called "Haro Park Centre" which is located in the West End neighbourhood in Vancouver. CBC News Global News Vancouver Is Awesome CTV News Vancouver CityNews Vancouver. Could you add these citation sources to be included in the British Columbia pandemic article. I will be happy to have these source included. Thanks. 2001:569:74D2:A800:9514:1D74:AEDD:C8B7 (talk) 22:15, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for doing all that research, IP editor. However, we may have to stay that particular incident as we have a new 77 cases today. --Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 22:52, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Arrival date clarification

We have an "arrival date" in the infobox (but not yet in the lead, where it should also exist) of January 28, 2020.

Is that an actual arrival date, or the date of the first case announcement in the press?

I think it was the first or second reported case in Canada, which should also be worked into the lead.

Also worthy of mention is the 14,000-person dental conference held in Vancouver during the week when fears were beginning to reach a full boil. — MaxEnt 20:11, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Map of British Columbia by regional district

Hello readers, I hope any Wikipedia will upload a map of British Columbia and separate the into Regional Districts. Any regional district in British Columbia contains how my confirmed cases by regional district within the province of British Columbia will be included. This is a proposed idea to include the map of British Columbia by regional districts that has confirmed cases. Anyone uploading a map of B.C.? Please let me know for an urgent reply. Thanks for your consideration. Steam5 (talk) 07:37, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

The last paragraph in the Timeline section.

I'm glad editors on this page are being diligent in reporting how many new cases there are each day with any deaths added on. However this is all getting jumbled up as prose in the last paragraph of the Timeline, and it's starting to look unwieldy.

Proposal: As we are getting daily updates, I suggest cutting down that paragraph into the most recent daily report and adding past values into the data charts shown below. Any thoughts? --Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝) 00:44, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

The past values are all in the charts already. It might be worth refactoring the section entirely so it's not a timeline per se, it's more of a prose history of the development of the disease in BC? That might discourage the daily case count tidbits. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:51, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Proposal: The corresponding page for Japan (2020 coronavirus pandemic in Japan) has a nice chart floating near the top, where it is possible to restrict the times shown. Perhaps someone copy it with the BC data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.172.188.111 (talk) 18:17, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

I've started a draft of the chart in my Userspace, since the current table in the Data section is gonna be clunky soon. I'll copy over the data from there. I'm not too familiar with the template but should be able to figure it out with some copy-pasting based on other pages like Canada's. I'd appreciate any help. —TheAnonymousNerd ^{(talk • contribs)} 02:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

"Amount" of cases versus "number"

Why do we continue to write "amount" rather than "number" of cases? Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:20, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

I will make this change now as there has been no comment. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:25, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Doh, I see it was already done without commenting here. Thanks. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:27, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Data table and chart graphic

Seeing the daily tally of new cases/deaths/recoveries expand, I decided to move it to a separate template page and use that template page as a source for data for the chart graphic template in the style that is used on most other coronavirus pandemic articles.

Some things that we should figure out would be:

• Reporting of cases on Sundays, since numbers aren't provided until Monday. On the Mondays, they do provide a breakdown of new cases from Sat-Sun and Sun-Mon, so the number of cases could still be given on Sunday and Monday. However, deaths and recoveries are reported for the whole 48 hour period. My thought would be to update the # of cases on Sunday and Monday, and keep the # of deaths and recoveries the same on Sunday and only update on Monday.
• Whether to include this table as well as the chart, or only the chart.
• Including columns text values of the "# of cases" and "# of recoveries" or "# of deaths" in the right side of the chart. Most other pages display cases and deaths. Currently, the template shows # of cases and # of recoveries.

Thoughts on improvements and comments would be great! —TheAnonymousNerd ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:02, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Templates should only be used when the data will be used in multiple articles. Please restore it if that's not the case. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:30, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

@Walter Görlitz: is that a rule? I was going off what was being done in other articles like Canada's and Quebec's which both have tables and charts on separate template pages. I organized it in the same way as the related templates listed at the bottom of the main pandemic template page. I can copy-paste it back if needed but would like some clarification first. Thanks for your thoughts! —TheAnonymousNerd ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:07, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Social/Economic impacts, event cancellations

If someone has time, we should put together a section summarizing some of the social and economic impacts to date. This would look something like the comparable sections in the Canada article. The BC Legislature is suspended. Many sporting and other events were postponed or cancelled. Most tourist attractions are closed down, as are restaurants and casinos etc. BC Ferries has cancelled sailings[1], permitted passengers to stay in their vehicle[2] (previously forbidden by Transport Canada rules), and can now refuse to transport those showing symptoms (using the same restrictions that apply to plane and train travel)[3][4]. I am sure there are other impacts that should be documented here.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 23:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

I have done a rough job of starting this. There is significant room for improvement and additions. It is valuable for this article to provide a summary of the effects the pandemic is having, as exists in the Canada article and other national and sub-national articles.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 19:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

I have added some info about the tenant/rental measures and response. It might be good to add something about the "essential services" restrictions and measures.[5] This section is a bit of a Hodge-podge but I hope with expansion, we can improve it and potentially split it into different sections that make sense. One place to start would be to pull the relevant materials from the Canada article insofar as it applies to BC (ie Sports, flight/YVR, BC layoffs, BC concerts etc).--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 21:38, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Call for photos

If folks have photos, please add them. We could use more photos showing closures and COVID-19 public health signage etc., particularly those from outside of Metro Vancouver as we do not have any of those yet.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 21:53, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

COVID-19 pandemic in Vancouver

Hello Wikipedians from Vancouver, So the largest city in the Canadian province of British Columbia is Vancouver. I hope anyone will create article titled COVID-19 pandemic in Vancouver, The proposed article will be titled as title COVID-19 pandemic in Vancouver will be focused on the pandemic within the city of Vancouver, British Columbia. The propose article will include how many active cases, how many deaths, how many recoveries and how many overall cases within the city of Vancouver, British Columbia. I will by happy for anyone's reply for the requested article to created and will be only focused on the city of Vancouver, British Columbia. Thanks for your time. Come back if the propose article is created. See you later. 2001:569:74D2:A800:BD02:776F:F499:1826 (talk) 08:32, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, For now, you can create a section named Vancouver in this article about BC. --BabbarJatt (talk) 23:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

We have no data from RS for Vancouver specifically. If we did, we probably would create an article for the city. Mgasparin (talk) 03:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Stale "Timeline" section

I hid a comment over in "Timeline" that states Timeline needs more updates to reflect the current COVID-19 situation. There is currently a three-month gap between now and the last item noted on the timeline. Should we fill it, and if so, with what? Here are two things that I think would be worth mentioning:

• Schools reopening in September. I'm not sure if this should include post-secondary institutions and the migration to online classrooms via apps like Zoom.
• The announcement of a second wave. I feel this should definitely be included as it marks a point where new daily cases have begun to rise.

Thoughts would be greatly appreciated. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and added the second wave announcement. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 04:58, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

References

Health authority graphs outdated

Hi, the "new cases" graphs in the healthy authority section are vastly outdated. Would this be something to remove until they can be updated? Cheers, Uninspired Username (talk) 03:47, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

December 9

Walter Görlitz reverted my edit on the December 9 item. The part of the article that I was taking from was this:

They will be distributed to people working in long-term care homes and assisted living facilities, as well as those in high-risk environments such as hospital emergency wards and intensive care units.

Mentioning hospital workers (that work in those areas) would not be out of scope. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 05:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes I did. CBC reported it as well https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/health-care-workers-hope-to-be-top-of-list-as-b-c-announces-covid-19-vaccine-plan-1.5833650 and I'm sure if I checked The Vancouver Sun, The Province, News 1030 or any other site, similar content would be provided. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:50, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Walter Görlitz, ah, if that's your concern, that can be arranged. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 05:51, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) To continue, that's because it's a direct quote from Terry Lake, CEO of the B.C. Care Providers Association. Everyone covering the press conference had access to the same material. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:52, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

This has absolutely nothing to do with CTV as every new source covered the same content. Please stop making it seem as though they broke the story. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:53, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Walter Görlitz, kindly take the time to look at this diff. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 05:56, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Is there a reason you think that you need to ping me each time you write here? The article is on my watchlist so I see all comments here. Your initial revert raised a flag, and the subsequent edit was better. Thanks. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:58, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Because I use reply-link.js. I'm glad we agreed on something. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 06:00, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Please check my two updates to confirm that they make sense and are in-context. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:00, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Removed a stray markup character; other than that it looks fine to me. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) (🎁 Wishlist! 🎁) 06:07, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

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Requesting the templates of BC Vaccination Cards

Can we upload a gallery of the templates of the vaccination cards of both partially (Blue) and fully (Green) vaccinated, to the timeline? Be sure to black out the names and QR codes (For identity concern), just the coloured frames/interfaces/templates of them. Unfortunately I cannot do the photo/gallery uploads myself because doing so requires a wiki account which I do not have one. TYVM 70.66.59.163 (talk) 22:17, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

I don't see why this should be done, as I would assume the government of BC has copyright over the card design. Unless you're able to demonstrate how it satisfies all of the fair use criteria, this is almost guaranteed to not happen. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:52, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

I do not think the plain geometry could be copyrighted, although it would be just as useful to state what the design is. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:42, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Sigh... Should have known it's pretty much almost always far from my expectation... 😵 70.66.59.163 (talk) 06:40, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

For the first week of September 2021...

According to all the trustable medias, there has been stories of the provincial anti-vax-passport protests in more than 10 cities throughout the province, and in my opinion, it is sort of a huge deal. Should we include the stories along with some related photo/video galleries? 🤔💭 70.66.59.163 (talk) 19:08, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

The protest on September 1 in Vancouver would be notable. That said, it would probably be better in a separate section from the timeline, such as §Social and economic impact. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:16, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

I don't know how, because uploading pictures/videos requires an account, let along me being autistic means it is hard for myself to summarize from the almost all the possible references... 70.66.59.163 (talk) 19:29, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Exposures erroneously called outbreaks throughout timeline.

This article needs some serious clean up. There are many instances of School exposures being referred to as outbreaks which is misinformation. There have been 526 exposures reported in BC schools so it does not make sense to report them all in the timeline. Unless the cited article states "outbreak" these should be removed from the article.--Davisrf (talk) 06:19, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@Davisrf: Good point. The article does not appear to be locked. You're free to fix it. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:41, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@Walter Görlitz: The problems appear to be extensive and I am still learning conventions and etiquette here. I'll do my best. --Davisrf (talk) 07:16, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@Davisrf: If you can make a list here of the numbered references that mention that a school outbreak occurred I might be able to help fix outbreak statements and remove exposure statements sometime after I wake up. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 🎄Happy Holidays!⛄ 08:32, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

I've made most of the corrections. More recent LTC outbreaks seem to be labeled exposures instead of outbreaks which is just as inaccurate. "Exposure" and "outbreak" have distinct meaning with specific definitions according to the BCCDC. With (sadly) over 100 LTC outbreaks declared in BC it probably does not make sense to report them all in this manner and only report on the most notable outbreaks. There is now a weekly report BCCDC on LTC outbreaks that could be cited for a section or table specifically about LTC outbreaks

There should probably be a shared standard on what justifies an entry as it can be somewhat inconsistent about what is included and what is not. For example, significant PHO orders are left out while speculation about potential orders have been included. I removed one such speculative entry that never was realized. Davisrf (talk) 23:23, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

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Need some "volunteers" for the Timeline

I am sorry. My grammar skill, regards constructing sentences, paragraphs, and essays, is really horrible. (re:Summarize) Let alone the timeline really needs constant updating (I think I mentioned it the other day last year, as a hidden comment, before the talk page), if necessary/possible (I really do not want to urge you all). Also, if there were any chances of posting some more related pictures, galleries or maybe some short videos, etc? And if this does not work out well, what if there's a possibility of migrating the entire timeline segment into a separate article, then claim an adequate protection to the article, thus you guys get to decide which stories make the cut? TYVM 70.66.59.163 (talk) 06:12, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

New cases and deaths graph

The difference in scale between new cases and deaths(roughly 100 to 1) has made the death graph pretty much useless. I did not even notice its line at first and when I did notice it I could gather no information from it. Is it possible to use two different scales on the same graph? Or perhaps put death in a different graph? HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 02:04, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Are you talking about the graph for Cumulative cases, deaths, recoveries, and active cases? I asked over at Template talk:Graph:Chart to see if anything can be done. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:40, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

I am referring to "New cases and deaths (weekly on Wednesdays from February 3, 2021, onwards)", though "Cumulative cases, deaths, recoveries, and active cases" has a similar issue. HighInBC ^{Need help? Just ask.} 08:17, 15 January 2022 (UTC)