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I see the two sections someone excised here merit inclusion.

A section comparing the CGC John Diefenbaker to Maritime Command's ice-breakers merits inclusion for two reasons.

  1. Harper's 2006 plan was to build three armed icebreakers for Maritime Command which, presumably, would have been of comparable ice-breaking capability to the CGC vessel.
  2. The Svalbard class vessels Harper announced in 2007 are frequently compared with the CGC vessel.

A comparison of the cost of the CGC vessel with a comparable USCG vessel I believe also merits inclusion. I suggest that the projected American cost is thirty percent higher than the projected Canadian cost is very pertinent.

Candidly, Geo Swan (talk) 09:08, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


This section should not be included

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This was included under "other icebreakers". But these ships were not intended to have any sort of ice capability; they were just supposed to be medium-sized patrol boats. They don't belong in this article. I'm not sure the other icebreakers should even be mentioned since this article is about the Diefenbaker.

Mid-Shore Patrol Ship Project

The federal government announced plans in 2006 to acquire 12 vessels for CCG under the Mid-Shore Patrol Ship Project. These vessels were envisioned to supplement fisheries conservation and protection duties (fisheries patrol ships) in CCG's Maritime, Newfoundland and Pacific regions. It was expected that 4 of these ships were to be tasked with marine security duties in the Great Lakes - St. Lawrence Seaway as part of CCG's Central and Artic Region. This $350 million procurement project was cancelled in 2008 before final tendering was completed with no replacement project identified.[1]

If the money to be spent on the mid-shore vessels was diverted to the Diefenbreaker, then I think it could be argued this deleted paragraph could be made to fit here.
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 13:42, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. How much patrol vessel can one get for $60 million each? Maritime Command's Orce class were somethinkg like $10 or $15 million each.

References

  1. ^ "Navy's support ship replacement program and new coast guard ships quietly scuttled". The Chronicle-Herald. August 24, 2008. Retrieved 2008-08-24. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)


Split off other icebreaker projects

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I propose that the section called "Other icebreaker projects in Canada" be split off into an overview article for Canadian icebreakers at Canadian icebreaker, and include a summary of this project as well. Since this article was remade into a ship article from a project article, it should no longer include a section on other projects, since this is not a project article. Instead we should have an overview article. 70.24.251.208 (talk) 09:41, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Canadian icebreakers or Icebreakers of Canada could probably be better names for the article. I'm thinking about making a similar article about Finnish winter navigation at some point. Tupsumato (talk) 12:12, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds fair enough, is anyone going to split the article then? Op47 (talk) 14:25, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Split the history of the polar icebreaker project to separate article

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Although this article is now named after the first of the future Canadian polar icebreakers, I propose that we split the project history into a separate "class article" (named something along the lines of "Polar Icebreaker project" + possibly (Canada) as disambiguator if there is more than one; check how similar project articles have been previously named) that covers everything leading to the construction of the vessels and then have two ship-specific articles that continue from there. Tupsumato (talk) 18:29, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Decided to go ahead with this as the project is notable enough in itself while the ships, once built, are notable in their own right. The project article is Polar Icebreaker Project. I've updated some redirects. Tupsumato (talk) 18:37, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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