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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by JuniperChill talk 09:39, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Celine Dept in 2024
Celine Dept in 2024
  • ... that Céline Dept (pictured) was the first Belgian YouTuber to reach 10 million subscribers?
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: Several newspapers in Belgium covered this fact at the time, so I think it's notable.
Created by Howardcorn33 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Howard🌽33 20:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - This direct quote needs to have a footnote immediately following: "At first, it was all for fun, but suddenly it went super fast and I was busy with it full time." Per DYK guidelines, the hook fact needs to also have a footnote directly following it; I would put one where the fact appears in both the lead and body.
  • Neutral: Yes
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes
  • Other problems: No - I'm a little concerned about the reliablity of TVovermind. Searching for it on the perennial sources noticeboard, there's some concern that it's a low-quality clickbait website. Is there a better source available for Dept's birthday? Her nlwiki article cites Famous Birthdays, which is blacklisted and therefore unhelpful. Otherwise, WP:DOB dictates we need to remove it or only include the year, should a source be available. (Maybe check her socials? A birthday tweet or something would be acceptable.)
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: @Howardcorn33: Meets criteria, Earwig clear, very well-sourced, image is CC licensed, just a couple of tweaks needed. TCMemoire 14:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I have added a citation in the lead for where it mentions the DYK fact, in addition to placing a citation next to the direct quotation. As for her birth date, I have been unable to find any source, excluding TVovermind, which states her birth date in full. I have found a pinned YouTube comment in her CEMI channel which says her birthday is on December 8.[1] We know that she was 23 years old on September 26, 2023,[2] so I believe we can infer her birth date as being December 8, 1999. Would it be acceptable if I assembled these two sources to state her full birth date? ―Howard🌽33 19:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Pinned comment at "WIJ ORGANISEREN EEN VERJAARDAGSFEEST VOOR 8-JARIGE FAN.. (Ze Weet Van Niets..) #630" (Media notes) (in Dutch). 2023-10-15. Archived from the original on 2024-07-09. Retrieved 2024-07-09. Op welke dag ben jij jarig? 🎉 Michiel 6 april & Celine 8 december!
  2. ^ "Céline Dept becomes first Belgian to reach 10 million YouTube subscribers". The Brussels Times. 2023-09-26. Archived from the original on 2024-07-04. Retrieved 2024-07-04.
@Howardcorn33: Unfortunately not; WP:DOB addresses this point, that concensus has been reached that combining sources to deduce a birthdate is considered WP:SYNTH. I would bet that TVovermind is just ripping from Famous Birthdays. Good new, though: if you go back through her celine.dept Instagram, there's a post from December 9, 2019, where she says "yesterday was my 20th birthday", we can use that. I would drop the link for you but I'm having issues linking from Instagram on my phone, sorry! Edit: She also dropped this Tiktok with #22, so that helps alleviate any concern that she wouldn't be okay continuing to advertise her birthday. TCMemoire 09:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TCMemoire: I have added the Instagram and TikTok posts as references and removed Tvovermind. ―Howard🌽33 14:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Howardcorn33: Thanks. Good to go now :) TCMemoire 17:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]