Talk:Buttered toast phenomenon
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[edit]Accuracy
[edit]Is section 2 entirely correct? Also, some statements may need clarification. 108.216.20.135 (talk) 00:22, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
- Looking at Straight Dope on toast, it appears that the physics are somewhat disputed, e.g. by 2001 article from the University of Maryland. I would suggest revision. Robin Z (talk) 21:14, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
Myth Busters debunked this
[edit]Alas, Myth Busters already debunked this years after the Skeptics Society also debunked it. :) http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/buttered-toast-minimyth/ Damotclese (talk) 20:48, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- Notably, the Mythbusters' experiment dropped the toast from the top of a one-story building, whereas the explanation in the article requires breakfast-table height. Aristos achaion (talk) 14:03, 19 February 2015 (UTC
- In fact the explanation in the article applies to sliding a toast off a horizontal surface, nothing to do with the experiment performed on TV.
Clarification as to what Mythbusters Was/How that relates to this
[edit]- Science is a process , not a 100% known thing
- Methodology errors have been pointed out in several of their experiments
- I can grab the link (although i think wikipedia may not take the link), but on Adam Savage 's "Tested" YouTube channel he did a bit on how a kid came up and was wondering if the episode testing Elephant's Fear of Mice had inaccurate results due to the usage of an Albino Mouse such as a Laboratory mouse rather than some Field Mouse
- So similarly the results may be inaccurate due to it being an entire story rather than average table height
- Granted there are a pile of variables as well; if i remember correctly they remarked that it was largely due to the center of gravity difference if not "smushed in" much (ie butter side down), or due to the Heat Shield similar aerodynamics if spread intensely (butter side up)
- After that recollection though he mentioned that that was the main goal of Mythbusters; Scientific Education/Inspiration, not being some definitive final conclusion, although the two can coexist to an extent
- At the end of the day fUrthEr ReSeaRcH iS nEeDed so one or more of us has to replicate/improve the experiment i guess!
- I do think adding the mythbusters bit would be a worthy inclusion to this page though, can i do that?
--Eric Lotze (talk) 21:22, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please keep in mind that the video is popular science WP:PRIMARY. You have to find reasonable secondary sources, otherwise it would be WP:UNDUE. - Altenmann >talk 22:30, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Removed uncited claim about proof
[edit]"Murphy's law takes credit for this, but science and physics proved it happens in the right environment." a) Murphy's law doesn't take credit for things, it's an abstract concept, and b) no citation, and too vague to be of any value ("science and physics" ???). CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 19:23, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
- Modified intro so it includes a line about the "scientific" inquiry into the topic, since the article does include a number of examples.CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 19:27, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Maintaining constant refrain on the domain of analysis
[edit]There's a statement in here the that 4 g of butter are negligible. But if toast at terminal velocity settles into a stable configuration presently the least area to the onrushing air stream, what you have is an edge-on coin toss. In this case, a mere 4 g of butter could easily have an inordinate effect on making the "coin toast" unbalanced.
This article should be very careful to make assertions in the following form: analyzed as a short, low-velocity fall, according to the Lucasian Chair of High Table, a mere 4 g of added butter exerts a negligible effect on toast dynamics. — MaxEnt 19:03, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
weird table( height)s
[edit]that text would feel much less weird if it didn't talk about TABLES of 1,80m or 3 metres, but just about falling/ dropping from (surfaces of) such heights — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:3035:601:EB83:7341:4660:A110:EDDC (talk) 10:41, 15 June 2023 (UTC)