Talk:Buenaventura River (legend)
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L. Salado
[edit]A recent edit states that "L. Salado" on the map is Great Salt Lake. I have my doubts as to whether that is a justifiable inference: it's way too far south; Lake Timpanogos on the map is actually closer to the location of Great Salt Lake. Was the inference just based on the name, or is there a citation for this? - Jmabel | Talk 04:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
- See the information on Lake Timpanogos on the Utah Lake entry. 11-03-08 RDavS (talk) 17:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for questioning my edit. I was wrong on this. L. Salado probably should be identified as Sevier Lake. At least that was the lake connected with the original San Buenaventura river by the Spanish cartographer Bernardo Miera in 1778. Are you familiar with his map image:Miera map 1778.jpg? Do you think this should be mentioned in the article? I just reverted my original edit.
- Cool. Never seen that. Sure, add it here with an explanation: it looks like it was most likely a direct or indirect source for the map we're showing, no?
- And maybe you would like to read online these webpage about the Fremont expedition: http://www.longcamp.com/coord.html and http://www.longcamp.com/buenaventura.html - They mention the history of the Buenaventura River and Fremonts findings. And I was able to find only one article on the Buenaventura in a serious journal. C. Gregory Crampton, The San Buenaventura − Mythical River of the West, in: Pacific Historical Review, Vol. 25, 2 (1956 May), S.163-171. It is scanned in the database of Periodicals Archive Online, would you have access to that? If not, send me an e-Mail through the Wikipedia-System and I'll mail it to you in copy. There is a number of interesting facts around the Buenaventura River and it makes a great Wikipedia article. --h-stt !? 07:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
- I don't really need to follow all of these sources myself: I'd be more than happy if you would carry the work forward, given that you've found a few decent sources. This isn't at all my usual area of work; I just started the article because it was one of the things that jumped out at me when I read The Island of Lost Maps. - Jmabel | Talk 02:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, I just added the old map, sources and the interwiki-link to the german language article, written by me. --h-stt !? 11:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- I expanded the article based on the sources and the german language version. Would you please check it for spelling, grammar and idiomatic expressions and correct all my errors? English is not my native language. --h-stt !? 22:54, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
- Very few problems: mostly that, unlike the German genitive, we use an apostrophe before the "s" in a possessive. Can you do anything to enhance the inline citations? - Jmabel | Talk 05:07, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks - I probably can do a few more edits over the next days. The german language article is a candidate for "lesenswerte Artikel" right now (something between Good article and FA) and I will hopefully learn a bit from the reactions of the readers. We have an professional cartographer, who is an avid WP editor on de. I hope he will help me to improve the german article quite a bit. --h-stt !? 22:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Error?
[edit]While checking the link for the sentence "in 1836 Tanner repeated the depictions of the three rivers, except he identified the "R. Timpanogos" as "R. S. Sacramento ou (or) Timpanogos" I found out that the river is still called just "R. Timpanogos". אביהו (talk) 09:07, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
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