Talk:Briony McRoberts

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Suicide allegations

So the suicide claims have been debunked? Quis separabit? 22:58, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not "debunked" - simply not yet proven. To use the term "suicide" in the article prior to the coroner's inquest is to use it in a loose, tabloid journalism sense. In England and Wales, where McRoberts' death took place, "suicide" is a legal verdict which must meet legal requirements i.e "beyond reasonable doubt." According to Jervis on Coroners (Mathews, P. & Foreman, J. (1993) London: Sweet & Maxwell), the leading text for coroners, "Suicide should never be presumed, but must always be based on some evidence that the deceased intended to take his own life." Per Linsley et al ("Open verdict v. suicide — importance to research" (2001) The British Journal of Psychiatry 178: 465-468): "The evidence that the coroner seeks to record a suicide verdict must indicate suicidal intent beyond reasonable doubt; when this is not the case, an open (also known as undetermined) or accidental verdict is returned." The article currently states that the death is not being treated as suspicious and that a close associate of McRoberts has expressed an opinion that the actress took her own life; until the legal verdict is passed, that is sufficient. This is, after all, an encyclopedia, not The Sun. Keri (talk) 09:59, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Role Description

she was not the Lady Laird, she was a manager employed by Greg Ryder. 2A00:23C8:B015:4201:9D2C:A920:633B:5A1C (talk) 15:47, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]