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Good articleBrazilian monitor Alagoas has been listed as one of the Warfare good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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Article milestones
DateProcessResult
October 11, 2010Good article nomineeListed
December 12, 2010Good topic candidatePromoted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 6, 2010.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that during the Brazilian Fleet Revolt of 1893–94, the rebel river monitor Alagoas had to be towed into position to fire on the government forts in Rio de Janeiro because her engines had been removed?
Current status: Good article

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Reviewer: Skinny87 (talk) 08:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
    Was the Alagoas' commander commended/reprimanded for the dash past the Paraguyan guns?
    Not that I know about. I suspect that his success offset his disobedience.
    What role did she play in the Fleet Revolt?
    She bombarded the gov't forts.
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Two questions relating to her Service history, and then this can be passed. Skinny87 (talk) 08:06, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is that photograph really Alagõas?

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While I don't claim to be an expert in naval vessels, I don't believe that the vessel in the photograph is of the real river monitor Alagōas. This is why I think so:

(1) I could be wrong, but this ship doesn't look to me like a monitor, but more like some sort of central casemate ship. Where's the oval rotary turret? (2) This photograph is anonymous and unsourced. (3) All extant verbal descriptions of Alagoas (e.g. Burton, Thompson) stressed her clean, uncluttered lines. (4) Above all, a sourced photograph of the real river monitor Alagoas shows she looked like this:

A rare photograph of the Brazilian river monitor Alagoas passing Humaitá, sometime in 1868, presumably after the fortress was captured. Notice the low profile presented to enemy artillery. From a soldier's photographic album preserved at the National Library of Brazil.

This photo, which I believe shows the real Brazilian monitor Alagōas, is reproduced in the article Passage of Humaitá, which also contains a detailed verbal description, sourced. I obtained that photo from the National Library of Brazil where, seemingly, it is carefully captioned. Ttocserp 15:01, 2 June 2017 (UTC)