Talk:Braunau am Inn/Archive 1

Archive 1

Comment from 2007

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Razed by Hitler

I'm reading in a rather conspiracy-oriented document that "Hitler razed the Austrian town he was born in, 'to destroy all hints of his Jewish father.'" If this is correct (notwithstanding the reason given) this should be included in the article. __meco (talk) 11:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

It says, "It became a fortress of CW and important trading route junction,"... What is CW? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.226.200 (talk) 15:53, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

I never understood the initials "C.W." but I had to change it to fortress "city" to make more sense. Does the initial letters stand for an early fiefdom/principality in the Braunau-am-Inn area? How about it stood for "Czech" for Czech people? or "Wien" for Vienna? There's a Brounov (Braunau) in the present-day Czech Republic founded by Bohemian German peoples during the medieval ages.

From what I read on the local history, Braunau was established by Bavarians in the late 8th century AD and the community was primarily under the Kingdom of Bavaria for nearly 1,000 years until the Austrian Empire redrawn the borders to include Braunau-am-Inn into Austrian jurisdiction ever since.

Due to close proximity with the German Empire (1871-1919) by 5 kilometers, the Bavarian cultural imprint was strong in Braunau-am-inn, the area was a hotbed for pan-German nationalism in locale Adolf Hitler's youth (1890's/early 1900's) to support or call for a reunified "German" or "Bavarian" nation.

And the conspiracy-theory link is not hard proof of evidence, nor is reliable to be placed as a contribution in the article. The rumors of Hitler destroying his hometown are just that: rumors or tall tales about a defeated dictator. Hitler was suspected of being part-Slavic (Czech?), alike a large porportion of inhabitants in what was ethnoculturally High German Upper Austria. + 71.102.2.206 (talk) 17:10, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Just to add a little second hand knowledge; my mother was born in Braunau in 1937 and raised on the outskirts of the town (near Ranshofen, in a forest cottage). She happily confirms from her childhood recollections, which are still crystal clear(!), that the town was not razed, bombed or flattened by Hitler, or the Nazis. The bridge into town from Simbach Am Inn was blown up by what she believes to be Allied bombing raids. The town, surrounding area and also my family's ancestoral home was occupied at the end of World War Two by first the Russians, and then later by Americans and British soldiers, but at no time was the town ever razed. I'm a frequent visitor to the town and I've never seen any evidence to support this theory. The town has preserved much of it's history on the whole, and the old city walls as mentioned, along with the baths and other buildings are all standing and in very good states of repair. As for the football club, one of my cousins used to play for S.V. Braunau, but not during their meteoric and eventually disasterous rise to the top flight! I appreciate none of this is suitable for inclusion in the article, but I just wanted to do my best to try and ensure that no silly Hitler theories end up in this good Wiki article! Daniel-James —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel-James (talk • contribs) 22:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Born in Ranshofen???

Adolf Hitler was born in Ranshofen, later annexed to Braunau am Inn, on 20 April 1889.

That claim seems to be nonsense.

I have never heard anything about that before - and the German Wikipedia articles on Braunau and the house where Hitler was born don't mention Ranshofen (other than being a part of Braunau). According to the article about the birthplace (and also the English version: Hitler birthplace memorial stone), the address of the house is Salzburger Vorstadt 15, which is close to the center of Braunau proper, but at least 3 km away from Ranshofen (compare Google Maps).

I assume the error stems from the linked articles (Toronto Star, BBC News regarding the revocation of Hitler's honorary citizenship. Apparently the story is like this: Ranshofen (for whatever reason) granted Hitler honorary citizenship sometime during the 1930s, before Braunau could do so. Then, in 1938 Ranshofen was incorporated into Braunau, so it wasn't deemed necessary anymore to make him an honorary citizen of Braunau as well. (Maybe it was thought he had become one automatically - while today it is doubted that this right was transferable at all, and therefore it isn't even clear whether it was necessary to withdraw it.) Based on this, both the Star and the BBC (!) erroneously assumed Hitler must have been born in Ranshofen, simply because he was a honorary citizen there, but not in Braunau proper - without validating that assertion.

The external links to Spiegel online and Welt online in the German article support my view.

Dekthep (talk) 18:25, 8 January 2013 (UTC)