Talk:Boris Polevoy

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Boris Polveoy - same man who wrote about Auschwitz? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 159.105.80.92 (talk • contribs) 16:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Why are the Holocaust-deniers of the "The Journal of Historical Review" are taken as source in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.74.190.153 (talk) 21:56, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

The edit history shows pretty clearly that the main author of the article was using the IHR article as just a source, without necessarily sharing the IHR author's view. Someone of course ought to replace these links with links to a better source (i.e., one whose authors don't have such obvious axes to grind). But whatever the IHR folks are thinking about the Holocaust, their facts concerning Mr. Polevoy's biography (and quotes from his books) do not appear visibly incorrect, so it makes no sense to remove the references until it's replaced with something better. Vmenkov (talk) 10:55, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Origins

He was born in Moscow in 1908, the son of a physician and a Jew, born "beyond the Pale" What could that phrase possibly mean? In his autobiography Polevoy mentions none of the 'pales', saying his father was a Russian Orthodox church seminary graduate, then a lawyer and a big home library owner, while his mother worked in a hospital. What's the source for this 'paleness', and, again: was his father some aristocratic luminary's illegitimate son, or what?) -- Evermore2 (talk) 09:52, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

The author of that sentence was claiming - with somewhat tortured grammar - that Polevoy's father was a Jewish doctor who (presumably, due to his education/profession), was able to establish permanent residence in Moscow City (which was outside of the Pale of Settlement, where most Jews of the Russian Empire lived). But yes, the the Russian wiki says - with sources - that Polevoy's father, Nikolay Kampov, was in fact a graduate of an Orthodox Christian seminary and a lawyer. This article certainly should be fact-checked, as JHR is not of course a truly reliable source. -- Vmenkov (talk) 15:10, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, thank you! - it just never occured to me that it was that kind of Pale)... This assertion: He was thought to have chosen the name in homage to Nikolai Polevoy, a nineteenth century Russian editor and writer known for writing historical novels very loosely based on facts - looks highly dubious, too. Because according to this (and some other Russian sources too) Kampov is a seminary sirname, derivative of Greek kampos, which means 'field' - which in Russian is po′le. So there you have it: Polevoy - 'from the fields'. -- Evermore2 (talk) 08:19, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

And back to this Pale issue) - according to the same regional source, the writer's father Nikolay Kampov was born in Shuya, Ivanovo. The latter's mother, Milovskaya, was a Russian Orthodox priest's daughter, based in Shuya. Her husband (Polevoy's grandfather on father's side) was 'a school teacher from Kostroma'. -- Evermore2 (talk) 09:09, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

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