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On 4 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Bonata. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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There's a lot of things wrong with this article. Even though the article is about the genus, the taxobox ends on species. B. septata redirects to the planet. I cleaned it up (somebody literally wrote "soft-bodyed"), but it was very confusing.

Asparagusus (talk) 14:07, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think I wrote "soft-bodyed" because I sometimes write very fast and I don't check the spelling. Also, the thing about the article being about the genus ,and yet shows the species is (probably) not a problem because the species also needs to be listed in the Taxobox. I will be adding the septata part. Rugoconites Tenuirugosus (talk) 18:44, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Rugoconites Tenuirugosus: the lede of an article about a monotypic genus needs to name the genus. The standard phrasing "X is a [genus of... in the family...]. It contains the single species X y." Then after that you are welcome to keep focus on the species, if suitable. You cannot set up the lede by completely ignoring the fact that the article name is the genus name.

Re Asparagusus' point above: there is nothing wrong with using a speciesbox template for monotypic taxa - you can either do that or use the automatic taxobox at genus level while adding a type species parameter. Both approaches have thousands of live article examples. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 19:54, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion about whether or not the page should be moved to being Bonata instead of Bonata (animal). I've come up with an idea of naming the article after the species so that way the female name "bonita" and the minor planet wouldn't be confused with the species itself. If there are any problems to that idea please join the discussion on this talk page. Rugoconites Tenuirugosus (talk) 10:50, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Update: the discussion is now closed. Rugoconites Tenuirugosus (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 June 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Consensus is against moving outright to Bonata, but there does appear to be consensus for creating a DAB there. Feel free to open a new RM for a disambiguator change; I don't see any consensus on that. (closed by non-admin page mover) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 20:32, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bonata (animal) → Bonata – The page Bonata is currently a redirect to a minor planet entry. There is no possibility of the current subject to have a full article. However, the animal genus already has an article, but at an awkward disambiguation. The animal genus should move, but retain the hatnote for the minor plant. Also see here the animal genus has more pageviews than the minor plant. YorkshireExpat (talk) 11:35, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agree- Although it should be noted that if the name does get changed then it will probably be confused Bonita still. Rugoconites Tenuirugosus (talk) 19:01, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Responding to my own comment: I also have the idea of putting the name of the species up instead of the genus so that way the hatnote for Bonita and The minor planet would possibly be removed. Rugoconites Tenuirugosus (talk) 19:05, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This would actually be the preferred way of handling it - disambiguation of monotypic genera is done by using the specific name, as YorkshireExpat knows because they fixed it in a couple of my pagemoves recently :) --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 06:58, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've just realised that the editors which are probably going to find this page are going to move it to yet again being "Bonata" instead of "bonata septata". I don't know if they will, but they'll probably do. Rugoconites Tenuirugosus (talk) 10:47, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At the very least I'd create a DAB page here. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:45, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Replace "Bonata" with disambiguation page per Crouch, Swale. Aside from Bonata (genus) and 49987 Bonata, there's Diego Bonata mentioned at CieloBuio who won an award; and Serafino Bonata who partcipated in the 2010 Skyrunning World Championships -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 22:54, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per 64.229.88.43. There is no primary topic, and thus Bonata itself should be a disambiguation page. Lacking an independent article does not disqualify the article-less subject from competing with those with articles for primary topic status. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 00:34, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.