Talk:Bonanza/Archive 1

Archive 1

WIDOWED BEN CARTWRIGHT.

Why on earth would someone insert the words "whose wives are no longer living" when the previous sentence describes the patriarch as the "thrice widowed Ben Cartwright". It is rather difficult to be widowed with surviving wives (not to mention being a bigamist). There should be some sort of IQ test to prevent such moronic contributions!!!- SL

RESPONSE

one can have more than one wife, serially, some of whom are dead, some living. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 21:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

2ND RESPONSE

Yes, one CAN have HAD more than one wife serially. One is considered a widower if the last wife is dead. But thrice widowed is thrice widowed- no divorce!? RC

3RD RESPONSE

There were many Mormons in 19th century Nevada. Ben might very well have been thrice widowed and still have a passel full to spare. - JB

True, JB, but Ben wasn't a Mormon. Ginny50 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginny50 (talk • contribs) 07:24, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Size and location of the Ponderosa

A thousand-square mile ranch? Wow. That must have been a big place. According to Wikipedia, the entire city of Detroit has an area of only 143 square miles. According to the same source, the land area of the entire city of Los Angeles is only 498 square miles. And we are expected to believe that the Ponderosa was larger in land area than the cities of Detroit and Los Angeles combined?

May I suggest that the Ponderosa was 1,000 acres in size, which is still a significant land holding?

John Paul Parks (talk) 13:22, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Valid points, but unfortunately it's rationalisation after the fact. "1,000 square miles" has appeared in print regarding the series; the Wikipedia article Ponderosa Ranch (which is unsourced) states that the pilot episode stated the size as 600K acres (approximately 2400 square kilometres or 925 square miles). If that statement (that the size was stated in the pilot episode) is verifiable, I'm afraid we have to accept it as "fact", however unlikely the figure appears. 98.211.124.111 (talk) 14:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

One background point is this discussion is the map of the Ponderosa, from the opening credits of the TV series. You can find this map at the following link, and in the newpapers today alongside the obit of Robert Temple Ayres, the illustrator who painted that map. http://ponderosascenery.homestead.com/scenes.html This map reveals the following: 1. The Ponderosa Ranch is located along the eastern shore of Lake Tahoe (note: the top of the map is East). 2. The Ranch is roughly shaped like a trapezoid. 3. Based on the locations displayed of Reno, Carson City and the lake shore, the north-south dimension of the Ranch is roughly 25 miles, and the east-west dimension is about 8 miles. 4. Thus, the map shows a ranch covering about 200 square miles, or 128,000 acres. Obviously, the 1,000 mile reference from the TV series is "apocryphal." 5. The northwest corner of the Ranch is the real-life, present-day location of Lake Tahoe Nevada State Park, which is 14,300 acres in size. So, yes, the fictional P is a really large ranch. Jrgilb (talk) 15:37, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Someone a little too broken hearted about Roberts departure?

I find the tone of this article to be a little less than neutral. Obviously the author has not done their homework, because Bonanza did not reach the #1 rating spot until Season 6, Pernell Roberts last year on the show, and remained #1 for the next two years. It remained in the top ten from seasons three to twelve, despite cast changes. Also the wording on the cast-changes clearly favors Pernell Roberts ("half-hearted attempts at cast changes")

Answer- Not really. Neither of the two attempts (Clay/ Will) were given enough time to develope. Not because of viewer dislike, but because the remaining cast saw that writing-in new family members, if allowed to continue, could be used as a threat in their own contract negotiations. And they cut it off in the bud. This was not an assault on Barry Coe or Guy Williams, it was self preservation. -Collins Richman

Greyias 13:17, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

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UK broadcasts

I'm sure I used to watch Bonanza on BBC TV in the 1980s, but I can't remember any more details. It ran for what seemed like (and probably was) years and years there. 86.132.138.205 02:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh puhlease

The show was successful for *years* after Roberts left. I guess it was the "Adam Cartwright Show". I personally didnt miss him a whole lot. Anyway, I have edited the article to make it less about how glorious the show was with Roberts--and more factual.

The Bonanza Syndrome is the term for how love interests, old friends, lost family members, etc of the Cartwrights would regularly end up dead, often as part of the episode in which they first appear. It should be identified by name. It is not a "running gag" as it was not intended to be a joke or humorous within the context of the show. In fact it is more of a dramatic device to raise tension and write out a character so they don't have to appear in further episodes. It is only a running gag in the context of televised drama fandom.

I agree that it wasn't a "running gag" within the context of the series, even though it might have been outside of it. Please see NPOV? below. Wakedream (talk) 17:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Where is Dan Blocker?

Someone must have made a big mistake in the section that deals with the actors lives after Bonanza - Dan Blocker is not mentioned along with the other actors; instead there's information regarding some David Canary. In which way would he be involved in the Bonanza series? Would someone please correct this ASAP. Thanks! --83.250.69.113 (talk) 00:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Answer-Actor Dan Blocker died in May 1972 during the run of "Bonanza" (as stated in the text). He obviously had no subsequent acting jobs. Actor David Canary played the ranch foreman Candy Canaday for 5 1/2 years with Blocker and after his death (1967-70; 1972-73). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.40.172.8 (talk) 14:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Fix Gibberish

Can someone decode this sentence and fix it so that it makes sense?:

"He left the series in 1965 after long complaining he wouldn't work out father-submitting, violent context and racism, traits of the pattern originally conceived by David Dortort." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.238.3.10 (talk) 19:09, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Answer- No, it makes zero sense and is mangled artiface. Roberts had several objections. He did object to using the word "Pa", as his character was to be somewhat sophisticated. He wasn't opposed to "father submitting"??? Roberts did work toward better hiring policies for minorites. The idea that Mr. Dortort is or was a racist has absolutely no merit. Was it common practice to hire whites to play minorities? Yes. Was the vocal liberal Marlo Thomas, who is Italian/ Lebonese, hired to played an Asian in one episode? Yes. Would you call Ms Thomas a racist? What about Yul Brenner, Bill Dana or David Carridine? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.40.172.8 (talk) 14:25, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Bonanza theme lyrics

An anonymous editor added information to the Johnny Western article saying that Western wrote the lyrics to the theme from Bonanza. I've watched the show many times, and never heard any lyrics. However, I did recently see a reference that Bonanza star Lorne Green had released a version of the theme that did have lyrics. Does anyone have a source saying these were written by Johnny Western? Wakedream (talk) 19:06, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Answer- There were two different lyric versions of the first/ original Bonanza theme. The orignial lyrics were written by Evans-Livingston before the first episode aired. A second set of lyrics, sung by Lorne Greene, and written a few years later (1964), can be heard on one of the four CD Bear Family "Bonanza" set discs. The Evans-Livingston words were rousingly sung by three of the stars in the pilot episode, but the clip was deemed too hokey, and inappropriately placed (as the four Cartwrights were mounting-up at the close of the show). Singer Michael Feinstein sang the Lyrics with the team on his Evans-Livingston CD in 2002, shortly before the duo died. A totally different music theme that has no words, was used from 1970-1972, and written by scorer David Rose. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.40.172.8 (talk) 14:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

NPOV?

There are several things in this article that I believe are in violation of WP:NPOV. I've listed these in bold italics below. Note that I personally agree with most of these, but that's my opinion and doesn't make it acceptable for a Wikipedia article. Some of these I believe could stay if they were sourced--it may not be a fact that Hoss was "warm and lovable," but it may be a fact that some survey showed a majority of surveyed viewers agreed with that, or that a studio release or prominent reviewer described him that way. An opinion is not a fact, but it is a fact that so-and-so held that opinion.

• All of the regular cast members had appeared in numerous stage, television and film productions before Bonanza, but none was particularly well-known.
• ...Cartwright family, headed by wise, widowed patriarch Ben Cartwright
• ...the second was the warm and lovable giant Eric, better known by his nickname: "Hoss"
• ...the youngest was the hotheaded and impetuous Joseph or "Little Joe"
• A running gag (which also occurs in the TV western The Big Valley), was that every time one of the Cartwrights became seriously involved with a woman, she died from a malady, was slain, or left with someone else. As with all hit programs, disturbing a successful formula could be a major blunder.
• ...he'd read the list of casualties on the radio every week in his deep, resonant voice
• Hoss had a tender heart and a penchant for lost causes.
• But, as might be expected, it was young Michael Landon who received the most fan mail.
• Some of the shows Landon directed are considered to be the most moving and socially relevant of the series
• ..."Candy" Canaday, a confident army-brat turned cowboy
• Several episodes were built around his character, one Matheson never had a chance to fully develop before the show's sudden demise
• Many felt the Hoss character was essential, as he was a nurturing, empathetic soul who rounded-out the all-male cast
• Greene wore his modest frontal piece in private life too
• ...have been immensely popular on cable networks
• Michael Landon became an industry "mover"
• Victor Sen Yung died a mysterious death in his home in 1980.
• The blonde Michael Landon, Jr., who bears little resemblance to his father
• ...Dirk Blocker, who greatly resembles his father
• A sign of the times was evident as Hoss' son Josh was born out of wedlock, something that could have been problematic in the original series ("The Big Valley", however, had a major character in Heath, who was presented as illegitimate. The "Gunsmoke" movies of the early 1990s employed a similar theme with Matt Dillon having sired an illegitimate daughter to Michael Learned).
• ...some believe gave the series a softer edge (talking about the series Ponderosa)
• Bonanza also featured a memorable theme song
• The Bonanza theme is one of the best known pieces of made-for-television music

Wakedream (talk) 17:35, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

ANSWERS:

Hmmm?. On some of these I would agree and on others I would disagree. It is true that referencing sources is essential. But after nearly fifty years since its creation, some pedestrian info can be accepted. The Candy character was indeed an army brat turned cowboy. His father's army credentials were mentioned a few times, including the first episode featuring Canary's Candy character. One should track-down the episode title and use it here. Candy was also, as part of his character discription, self-assured (confident).

Victor Sen Young's death was presented to the public as mysterious. The manner in which he died sparked speculation of suiside. Even Lorne Greene, in a 1981 syndicated Larry King radio interview, could not clarify the issue saying that the cause of his death was initially reported as "undetermined" though he felt it was accidental.

Saying that Hoss had a tender heart and a penchant for lost causes were words right out of the Ben Cartwright character's mouth. You wouldn't call Pa a liar now- would ya? The fact that many Hoss scripts depicted him as empathetic and nurturing can not be denied. Anthropologists have not really associated those as typically 1865 circa male traits. Did Hoss provide some balance to the all male cast by infusing plots with a compassionate perspective (ie female) storylines? Writer Virgil Vogel felt that Hoss presented a more subtle, caring approach that would have been otherwise absent. His opinion, yes. Is he correct??? Well, not many cowboys worry about skinning rabbits, reforming drunks, matchmaking, or disappointing children. Hoss did. (While journalist strive to be gender-neutral the real world is not adrogynous. Rather than a homogonenization of genders, why not appreciate their inherent differences and qualities equally?).

Was the orginal Evans-Livingston Bonanza theme memorable.? Well, if you were born in 1980- no. However, most "boomers" whether they were fans or not, would say yes. Thirty five years of repeats, and ongoing parodies have pretty much solidified it's rank as recognizable.

Regarding Lorne Greene's "modest" toupe. By all accounts, staff from several of his shows, it was just that- a smaller frontal piece, not a full crown toupe. This is not opinion but fact, though the sources are absent. Michael Landon himself briefly touched on this in an interview about his teen identification with Samson, which caused him to grow his hair longer. He also stated that he was the only orginal cast member "who kept my original hair"..

"A sign of the times was evident" regarding Hoss' illegitimate son Josh would be better rewritten as, "Societal changes were considered". Let's face it, even divorce was considered a TV taboo in the mid 1960s. In reality, Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin were said to have sired out-of-wedlock offspring. Jefferson and Franklin, however, weren't judged by Neilson ratings and network censors. Such births are not new, only the hushed treatment of the topic has changed.

Regarding Ms Sullivan's work on "Ponderosa" being the root of the PAX spin-off's "softer edge". The actor who played young Adam on "Ponderosa", Matthew Carmody, was vocal about the series nixing gunplay, which he felt emasculated the show. Interviews of the spin-off cast can be seen in "Bonanza Gold", a publication which also includes interviews with David Dortorts's daughter and past staff members involved with both series. (Personally, I liked the spin-off and thought it had high production values. Nonetheless, I like a little physical conflict as well). The remarks about Michael Landon Jr not looking like his dad are not jounalistically sound nor are they relevent. It is used to juxtapose Dirk Blocker's resemblence to his dad. While there may be some truth here, it is trivial. - Wes Angus —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.40.172.8 (talk) 13:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

You're not materially in disagreement with the OP, but it doesn't change the fact that this is an encyclopaedia, and it requires reliable third-party sources. Saying, "we all know it's true," doesn't make it fact. The fact that you can hint at such sources (you've done so at several points in your response) proves that it would only take a little research to properly cite them. We still need the citations in order to make the statements legitimate. 98.211.124.111 (talk) 14:33, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

BONANZA

"BONANZA" IS A WORD IN SPANISH FOR PROSPERITY.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.120.149.231 (talk) 09:18, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Women on show

The show was a kind of "My Three Sons" on the Ponderosa, with very few women lasting more than one episode or two. It became a staple for any romantic involvement (esp with Little Joe) to end tragically. Is this in article? JimWae (talk) 20:55, 5 February 2011 (UTC) I see it is sort of included under Lorne Green --JimWae (talk) 21:28, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree that were was lopsided gender difference on the show. This is an interesting article: Women's Rights in the USA: On the Amazing Strides of American Women. Cmguy777 (talk) 22:05, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

the character section need to be expanded

i only shows main characters. it should show more characters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.59.120 (talk) 09:14, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

SECOND CLASS WOMEN?

A recent entry cited a New York Times column stating that 1960s television had a diminishing role for women and mentioned "Bonanza". I recall such '60s programs as "The Lucy Show", "Private Secretary", "The Dick Van Dyke Show", "Honey West" , "That Girl", "The Girl From U.N.C.L.E.", "Julia", etc... all showing strong, self-reliant women. Not to mention the variety shows of such female talents as Judy Garland, Dinah Shore, Pearl Bailey & Carol Burnette. Does anyone recall a very young Patty Duke, who successfully portrayed the diverse characters of U.S. teenie bopper Patty Lane AND her refined Scottish cousin Catherine? Pretty diverse acting for a girl in her late teens. Yes "Bonanza" was of a male-oriented genre (westerns), which reflected the era in which it was produced (1959-73). But it also depicted 19th century America. Still, women were respected. Does the writer think that contemporary shows such as "Women Behaving Badly", "Sex In The City", and "Desperate Housewives" portray productive, altruistic women? Most would probably prefer Harriet Nelson over Paris, Snookie, and Anna Nicole. And, if today's reality TV is truely unscripted, then both genders would do well to return to some of the unsophistication attributed to "Bonanza"- family, community and respect for others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.94.204.37 (talk) 12:41, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Robert Temple Ayres, Creator of the Original Ponderosa Map on “Bonanza”

Robert Temple Ayres born 1913 in Lansing, Michigan, the artist who painted the original Ponderosa map featured on the TV show Bonanza, has died. He passed away on February 25 2012 in Los Angeles. He was 98.

http://ayresartprints.com/pages/about-us

http://blog.theautry.org/2012/03/01/robert-temple-ayres-creator-of-the-original-ponderosa-map-on-bonanza/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.66.12.54 (talk) 22:26, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

actress elain baral

there was an episode 'lost child" i believe,and i believe there was a child

actress namd Elain Baral. i am trying to discover her actions in later years, but can find no mention of her anywhere on the internet. I believe i have her name corrct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.247.5.35 (talk) 03:28, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Full Season DVDs

My mother is a fan of this series, and during holiday we discovered that in Germany, they somehow managed to publish entire Season Boxes (up til Season 6 at the moment) [1]. I'm not sure how exactly this works rights-wise. But if someone can track this down and write something about it, it could help a lot of fans, I guess. -- Harry 16:29, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Today they have release also season 7! They are remastered and in German as well as English!! They are sold by Amazon Germany. This is a real surprise and also very confusing. Why are they not released in other countries and other languages?? Someone that have any comments on this? And when will they be released "worldwide" in other languages?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.216.187.4 (talk) 09:59, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, this is a real mystery that some old classic TV series not has been, up to date, completely released on DVD. Bonanza has been released, seasons 1-7, in Germany before season 1 in the US. And Studiocanal, that now has the rights to release it in Germany, will release seasons 8-14 during 2013. All seasons are released in one box per season in Germany. In Scandinavia Soulmedia began releasing the series, and so far only the first season has been released in 4 boxes!! - Inflation in boxes, too many....but better 4 boxes than none. Worse is it with another classic TV series - The High Chaparral. Released in Germany, first season released in The Netherlands and second to follow beginning of next year and the last two seasons during fall 2013. In Sweden Soulmedia has released the series with two boxes per season during 2012-2013. Also released in New Zealand and Australia. But in the US and other countries so far NO release!!!! More examples: several series has been partly released in Europe (region 2), but then suddenly stopped, like The Fugitive - 1 season, Perry Mason - 2 seasons, Hawaii Five-O (original series) - 7 seasons. (Also other series has suddenly been dropped). Very, very bad CBS/Paramount! And The Man from UNCLE never released in Europe, is another bad example. Not understandable how they can do like this!! First they of course miss a lot of dollars of earnings because fans pass away.... Surprised that bootlegs and illegal downloading is done??? I am not, even if I don't do it.Vuono (talk) 08:16, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Bonanza Title

   It is likely that the title refers to the practice of bonanza farming, not the Comstock Lode.  The Cartwrights had a very large number of cattle- over ten thousand head.  That qualifies as bonanza farming.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.123.218.155 (talk) 22:46, 21 August 2010 (UTC) 

how did ben cartwright get all that land? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.75.198.6 (talk) 07:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

According to Mr. David Dortort, the creator of Bonanza, specificaly in "Bonanza, a viewers' guide to the tv legand" written by David Greenlander and authorized by Mr. Dortort and in other articles by Mr. Dortort about his creation, the title "Bonanza" refers to the mining term, bonanza being a big strike. Except to Ben Cartwright, his big strike is his ranch and sons instead of silver. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginny50 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Years portrayed

I just saw an episode (It was from 1964 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0529554/) in which they said the Dred Scott decision (of 1857) had "just been announced". There was black opera singer who was suspected of being a runaway slave. Nevada Territory was an official territory from 1861-MAR-02 to 1864-OCT-31. The Comstock silver lode find was 1859, and Virginia City was supposedly begin right after that. I had always thought the show was to be more about the 1880s, as I think many others do. The clothing looks like it would have been out of place before the Civil War. Were there many shows in which slavery was still a legal institution in the US? Any other shows that can be identified by year? JimWae (talk) 20:50, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Apparently Reno (on that map) did not come into being until the railroad arrived in 1868. I don;t expect historical accuracy, I am just wondering what other references establish a timeframe. As I said, I had always thought the events were about a the 1880s or so -- maybe it was the cavalry uniforms that looked too modern for the 1860s. Civil War was part of plot in 1960 episode http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0529470/ Was the Civil War ever mentioned again? --JimWae (talk) 22:21, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

According to http://ponderosascenery.homestead.com/files/chronology.html the chronolgy was 1859-1873 (100 years before the show). One episode in 1964 had Abe Lincoln send a wire: http://ponderosascenery.homestead.com/files/chronology.html JimWae (talk) 08:50, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

A few of the first season episodes had the date at the beginning: 1859 The Civil War was a plot in two episodes, "House Divided", which took place before the outbreak of the war, and "War Comes to the Washoe" which takes place at the time Nevada becomes a state. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginny50 (talk • contribs) 07:48, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

PONDEROSA

""PONDEROSA IS A WORD IN SPANISH FOR PONDEROUS... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.120.149.231 (talk) 09:23, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

The Ponderosa Ranch was named after the ponderosa pines which are abundant in the area. Stated many times by David Dortort creator of Bonanza and specifically in "Bonanza, a viewers' guide to the tv legend" written by David Greenlander and authorized by Mr. Dortort. ginny50 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginny50 (talk • contribs) 07:54, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Time period

I think the Show deserves a time period. Bonanza took place before and during the American Civil War. Are there any sources that state this? Cmguy777 (talk) 21:14, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

The show does have a time period; 1859 through the Civil War and after. The source is the show's creator, David Dortort, in many articles and interviews and specifficially in "Bonanza, a viewers' guide to the tv legend" written by David Greenlander and authorized by Mr. Dortort. Also a few of the first season episodes had a date at the beginning of 1859. Later seasons had many episodes revolving around Civil War veterans and one show specifically mentioned President Grant. ginny50 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginny50 (talk • contribs) 08:00, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Theme Song

Why should the "theme song" have been orchestrated by David Rose and arranged by Bly May (whoever that is - perhaps Billy May is meant?) for the television series? According to an interview with guitarist Bob Bain (in the Robert Farnon Society's "Journal into Melody", No. 166, December 2005) the arrangement was by David Rose. 31.18.161.252 (talk) 11:56, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Appearence Count

The article says:

Greene appeared in all but twelve Bonanza episodes.

Landon appeared in all but fourteen Bonanza episodes for its run, a total of 416 episodes.

imdb.com says:

Lorne Greene ... Ben Cartwright / ... (430 episodes, 1959-1973)

Michael Landon ... Joseph 'Little Joe' Cartwright / ... (427 episodes, 1959-1973)

"Doing a little math" says:

With a total of 430 episodes there must be something wrong...

I say:

Please help me to understand, because I don't want to delete the above sentences without proper knowing of the circumstances.

TIA, --Oculus Spectatoris ^disputatio_e-mail 10:36, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

This is probably an endeavor that no one wants to undertake even if there was a reliable way to do it, unfortunately. This is the sort of thing that imdb.com tends to be famously wrong about but there's probably no easy way to unsnarl this one without screening all 430 episodes, I don't suppose. Extremely good question, though. Jump Forward Immediately (talk) 14:48, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

And I personally don't think anyone appeared in "all but twelve" or "all but fourteen" episodes, it seemed that half the series only included three out of four Cartwrights at most, but I could certainly be wrong about that: dozens if not hundreds of episodes seemed to end with a fifteen-second appearance by that week's missing Cartwright in the final scene, not to mention similar appearances at the very beginning instead. Jump Forward Immediately (talk)

No criticism

this entry does not seem to portray any criticism of the show. For example, did it contribute to the negative stereotype of native americans, or anything.

The only thing I can think of that negatively stereotyped anyone would be Asian-Americans (the Hop Sing role was very stereotypical), but then again that's my view and I don't have sources saying other people think so. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 20:01, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

i haven't watched the show in years but i don't remember any negative depictions of native americans. quite the contrary

Stop trying to inject your sickening Cultural Marxism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:3067:1890:8D31:4A0A:1041:8AB1 (talk) 05:59, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Antonyms

There are no antonyms!!!!!!!!! why not!!!!!!!! for kevins sake you are wikipedia!!!!!!!!!! fix it!!!!!!!!

Adam Lost

Of all western heroes, Adam Cartwright is the most unsual. He was the renaissance cowboy and openned the show to a wide depth of stories. The show lost depth without him. Any successful remake would have to center upon him to keep its theme relevant and interesting in a timeless fashion. In his absence the show became overly dependant upon Landon's character and suffered from his myopic outlook in contrast to its more imaginative past.

Mined

"Virginia City ... was mined for 19 years": ?