Talk:Blaze the Cat/Archive 1

Archive 1

Double checking

This article needs need double checking!

>x<ino 17:04, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

How the heck do you get that Amy hates Blaze. I played through the entire game, and I didn't find anything about that.

I didn't do or add any information to this article!
That is why I said this article needs double checking!

Perhaps...since you have played the game. You can add some information to it! That's what Wiki is all about, and why anyone can edit any article

>x<ino 00:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Clean UP!

This article is already being subjected to speculation of "romantic relationship" with Silver, and her role in Sonic the Hedgehog. And also, there was recent vandilism, that nearly 10 edits missed to correct! UnDeRsCoRe 23:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, there's no information on whether or not the relationship between Blaze and Silver is merely platonic, and yet already a bunch of shippers think that something deep is going on. Ugh... our society is far too preoccupied with sex! It's disgusting! --Luigifan 03:16, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I know, to be honest, these characters are about exactly how old? 6-20 at the most. I doubt they'll be, or should be, getting jiggy right now. Also, I'm sure Sega/Sonic Team are smarter than to have characters having it. But I don't think shippers want the chars to have sex, they want them to be "together". Although, it's highly unlikely. UnDeRsCoRe 15:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

First off, could you point out said vandalism? I must have missed it. Also, do you know nothing about teenagers? I can tell you from first hand experience, there are few who are not having sex even as young as 13-15 (age of charcters in question). However, it has been said that Blaze/Silver's relationship is the brother/sister type with Blaze being the older sibling. (JPN Blaze's profile says this)

GrandMasterGalvatron 13:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I think I'd know, I am a teen. Anyway, I know that they're few that haven't had sex, but I'm only saying that Sega will never make them do the do. UnDeRsCoRe 21:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

That's because sex has been glorified by the media to terrifying levels. What with parents' relaxing attitudes towards child-rearing, children are learning about sex from all the wrong places, like their peers, or from television, or magazines like Cosmopolitan. This leads to a skewed view of sexuality that, if not recognized and corrected, can easily lead to irresponsible sexual conduct, or, if the poor kid is really misinformed, it might become horniness. So, the sexual lunacy in our society could be stopped easily if parents actually took the time to raise their kids properly. Seeing as that's not happening too frequently for this generation, it's up to us to make sure that the next generation isn't even more screwed up. --Luigifan 00:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

We can't blame the parents entirely, I mean, first off, it's akward (or at least I'd think it would be) to teach your child about sex. That's why they hope their children don't bring it up. But, if they don't know, they just might find out the wrong way. But still, I agree that it's their responsibility to teach the child about sex and morals and stuff, but it's also the kid's responsibility not the go around doing it for the sake of the feeling. UnDeRsCoRe 21:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

How off topic has this gotten? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.126.59.28 (talk • contribs)

Very. UnDeRsCoRe 23:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Lust is evil. EEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (runs around like Mermaid Man) ... Sorry. I just HAD to do that. :p --Luigifan 00:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Those sick people can fantasise all they like, but NO Sonic game will EVER be rated 18/AO for Sex. Roxyr

Unless Sega ever gets that desperate. (Goes off to pray that they never do.) UnDeRsCoRe 16:15, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Tell me about it... (Goes off to join UnDeRsCoRe) --Luigifan 00:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Meh, what the hell. (Runs around in circles then goes off to join UnDeRsCoRe and Luigifan) Roxyr 16:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, it turns out that Blaze and Silver do have romantic feelings for each other, but neither one wants to admit it. Go figure... Of course, SEGA has never actually displayed sexual intercourse in its games, not even using some sort of veil (e. g. bedsheets, curtains, off-screen, etc...) And, in all likelihood, they never, EVER will... unless they end up growing desperate. (Goes off to pray again) --Luigifan 00:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

This is almost as distubing as Elise liking Sonic. (Human-animal relationships are wrongsick!) DeathGodDragon EDGE 19:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Nothing is as disturbing as that. NOTHING. Roxyr 21:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Meh. Sonic is way more human-like than animal-like anyway. 83.255.67.167 18:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Burning Blaze

I took some screenshots of this form from a video that was posted on youtube. it's kinda low quality but it shows what she looks like. Could that be posted here or would you rather wait for an official image to be made Grandmastergalvatron 19:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/Hot-Shot/SB5.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/Hot-Shot/superdudes1.png

These are the best images of Burning Blaze that I have. I doubt that there will be any official art for a while....what can be done about this?

They're not really good quality. But, eh, I like the second one, put it up if you want to. UnDeRsCoRe 21:18, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually....do you think we could put up a fan made render accurate to the version in the game?GrandMasterGalvatron 16:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't know. I don't think so though. I'd rather have official art than fan. But, since no official art of Burning Blaze has been revealed, I guess we could use fan art. UnDeRsCoRe 01:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Orignal Research = No

That was not original research, however, it would classify as hacked information, I guess. Should I remove it because the source is a forum, or leave it there because it is verifiable information (I should say this in the STH(2006) article as well), because if one were to decompile the demo onto their PC using an extractor, as Sonic CulT did, they would be able to verify the existance of the images. Roybertito 23:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

From what I've seen, they'd rather have the source be verified by means other than hacking. I can't really say what to do in this case but I'm leaving it as is.GrandMasterGalvatron 20:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, it seems to have been referenced to a screenshot of the life icons, which is, apparently, for Sonic, Shadow, Silver, Omega, Tails, Amy, Blaze and Knuckles. UnDeRsCoRe 22:24, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Things to be added in time

Here's a little heads up on some details that will be added later.

• Blaze hails from the same time as Silver.
• Blaze and Silver are close friends.
• Blaze was confined to her location in Rush as the result of an attempt to seal the Iblis within herself.
• Blaze is anti social because she lost a close friend, that being Silver and does not mention him.

This will all come from the new Sonic game. These details are taken from script leaks and can be added when the game comes out with even more details. ^^ GrandMasterGalvatron 21:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Burst Dash

The article says blaze spins in a tornado but that's incorrect. I don't know how to really describe what she does to charge up speed. She goes into some hovering stance and fire builds up behind her. Can I get some help on this?GrandMasterGalvatron 17:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Cats?!?

Why is the WikiProject Cats template here? Blaze is a fictional character. She's not a real cat. Putting this up here is like saying Sonic should be in WikiProject Hedgehogs. It makes no sense. --Luigifan 11:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Look at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Cats project page, and you will see that the scope of the project includes both fictional and factual members of the cat family. Basically, it wouldn't make a lot of sense if we didn't include the likes of Garfield, Heathcliff, Bucky the cat from Get Fuzzy, etc., because, even though they are fictional, they tend to be based upon rather close observation of the real thing. On that basis, we are marking articles on all the factual and fictional members of the genus Felidae, because, in several cases, our possibly greater knowledge about the real-world templates these fictional cats might be based on might prove valuable. Badbilltucker 13:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Edit block

Ok. This IP, 82.34.98.127, keeps making these lame edits on both Blaze, Silver, and Sonic The Hedgehog 2006's articles. I think I've reverted it's changes some ten times in the last 5 minutes. Can we like block it from editing the page or set an anti vandal block or something? GrandMasterGalvatron 18:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I've sent a warning to the I.P., although I doubt they'll listen. Anyway, if the vandalisim keeps up, we should get protection. 23:36, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Like my new name :P Oh, and just so you know, someone else spelt colour correctly on the Silver page. So its not just me. ColoUrnotcolor 20:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

That spelling's only correct if you're Canadian. --Luigifan 12:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Or British like moi XD Roxyr 11:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, eh wot, or whatever. I really don't get British/Old English. I only know a few of its slang words (like "loo" for "toilet", or "willy" for "penis".) In short, I prefer American spellings anytime. Though, I do tend to guffaw at British accents, like in the Harry Potter movies. It just sounds so ridiculous. Anyway, the spelling on this page should definitely be "color", not "colour". --Luigifan 14:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Im not being mean, but loads of people make fun of the american language. Besides, english people made the english language, even though I am english and my teacher always yells at me for spelling colour, color. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitual aelita (talk • contribs) 18:51, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Just to ask, why do American spellings have to be standard? It's 'Wikipedia English Language', not 'Wikipedia American'--HellCat86 02:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Why should British spellings be standard? :PGrandMasterGalvatron 05:43, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

...Because we created the language being used?--HellCat86 13:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Why are we arguing over the spelling of the word color? That's just dumb. Aguni Dragon-OX 00:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I guess because some are hell bent on using the "our" spelling. But really...look at it. EVerytime I see "colour" the pronounciation "Kuh-LOOER" comes to mind. Seriously...I can't look at the word and get "kuh-LORE" out. :/GrandMasterGalvatron 21:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Luigifan, are you taking the piss, or are you joking? Anyway, Britons are starting to get all dumb, thinking they're 'gangsta'. That is incredibly stupid, I mean do they go around shooting people? Or do they go to a 'social club'? Oh yeah, there's some sort of topic going on here... Roxyr 19:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC) P.S. Not bad for a teenager, eh wot?!? **guffaws**

Sometimes, people at Wiki can have the most idiotic edit wars ever. DeathGodDragon EDGE 19:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, Roxyr! What exactly do you mean by "taking the piss"? --Luigifan 23:36, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

No memory of Sonic

Spent the last few days watching the cutscenes for the new game. Now, I haven't been actually able to play the game but from what I can see Blaze doesn't seem to have any reaction to Sonic. Is any explanation given for this? --HellCat86 00:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps Sonic the Hedgehog takes place chronologically before Sonic Rush. Then, since Solaris is erased from history, the events of the game never happen, meaning that Blaze no longer knows or is affiliated with Sonic, and thus did not sacrifice herself to destroy Iblis. That's just my take on the matter though, and since I haven't actually played the game, my theory might have some problems, but it's as good as any, I suppose. Cyberlink420 19:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

This makes the Sonic timeline so confusing. But, I've got to give you credit, Cyberlink420. That's a pretty plausible theory you've got there. (claps) Aguni Dragon-OX 21:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

It certainly is very confusing. I'm still trying to judge, myself, where 06 fits into the timeline of 06, Rivals, and Rush. But yeah, I find that theory to make sense also. Knuckles sonic8 21:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

For the reasons stated above, I'm going to erase the line in question, since it's not really clear in the first place. Until then, we must assume that Sonic Rush takes place before "Sonic 2006". Brittany Ka 12:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Brittany Ka, no matter which theory is proven to be true, either way, the timeline will be confusing. DeathGodDragon EDGE 05:41, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I think Rush does take place before 2006, because Blaze gets all annoyed at the characters talking about Sonic Sonic Sonic. If she had met him before Rush, wouldn't she know who he was during the events of Rush? Hbdragon88 01:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I've seen videos of cutscenes from Sonic 2006, and she keeps saying to herself, "blue hedgehog", as if she feels that she knows him, yet can't quite remember him. 05:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, when Solaris is erased, the events of Sonic 2006 get totally negated, with the exception that Sonic and Elise have faint memories of each other. So, Sonic 2006's place within the timeline is a moot point... --Luigifan 23:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok I have a theory that will fit in this just well. In Sonic 06, Blaze and Silver are both from the future. this future is actually an alternate dimension, exsisting parallel to Sonic's present. They are completely identical, the key difference being the age, Silver's universe is nearly 200 years older then Sonic's universe, so if you travel between the dimensions, it appears to be time travel. After the game Blaze is sealed in a different Parallel Universe, but not dead. Soliaris awakens and destroys Silver and Sonic's dimension, but Blaze's dimension is untouched, and then time resets for the two effected dimension, but Blaze retains her memories. A little while later, Eggman NEGA from the new version of Silver's dimension travels to Sonic's dimension, Silver quickly follows. This continues till Sonic Rivals 2, when Eggman NEGA is sealed in an alternate dimension, with Ifrit. Sonic, Tails, Amy and Knuckles never realise Eggman is actually Eggman NEGA, but Eggman and NEGA do, ofcourse. NEGA using his genius figures out a way to leave the Ifrit dimension, and makes his way to Blaze's world. NEGA decides to team up with Eggman, and put aside their differences. So when NEGA first runs into Sonic, he clearly recognises him, but Sonic still thinking Eggman was behind Rivals 1 and 2, has no idea who he is. Meanwhile, Blaze has been living in her dimension for some time. The locals discover she is a princess, and they quickly become friends. Blaze discovers the Sol Emeralds in this new dimension and collects them all, thus becoming their guardian. When Blaze travels to Sonic's dimension, she knows some about Sonic and the Chaos Emeralds, but not a whole lot. She recognises Sonic's name, but doesn't know anything about him, and doesn't trust him (Maybe she still remembers him as the "Iblis Trigger") She never really knew how to use the Chaos Emeralds, nor how they work, and she lost the ability to use them when she lost her last friend Silver, remember when sonic and blaze are about to fight she says "because of my powers i have been alone" this theory supports that. Then Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure happen. Ok the only real problem is the Jeweled Scepter being the Royal Family treasure, but since it seperates the two dimensions, its not hard to imagine it traveling between the dimensions User:burningblaze April 10,2009 —Preceding undated comment added 21:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC).

Blaze on Sonic Channel

Here she is on Sonic Channel. [1] This seems like that she will return. 17:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

So she's on Sonic Channel, big deal, this means nothing. -Sukecchi 02:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't think we'll know her fate unless she appears again. I agree that the final ending of the game rewrites her fate but then said fate seems to be a driving force for Silver and his theme song even specifically references it.--HellCat86 02:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

So is Blaze's loss the supposed sin for which he is asking forgiveness for? (Absolution=forgiveness of sin) Makes sense except it wasn't his fault...he pansied out at the last minute. I suppose it's noteworthy either way :/GrandMasterGalvatron 04:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Sure sounds like it. "I know of a future, but you still control the past"= Silver could move on but can't because of guilt over her death. "Every night I will save you"= In his dreams, Silver is constantly seeking to undo her death and save her life.--HellCat86 04:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I haven't seen that artwork of her before, so it may be possible they're using her in a new game.

Artwork shown also appeared in Sonic Rivals - just a note. Also, good analysis of the song. Everytime both other users and I try adding parts of that to interpret the song on Silver's page, it gets removed for some reason. But, personally, I think it's possible that, somehow, she'll re-appear. That would be weird though if she appeared in Secret Rings... well for me anyway...Knuckles sonic8 13:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually..that was the Sonic Rush piece. It just had the circles.GrandMasterGalvatron 15:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

She is going to appear that game, but so far, she's only been confirmed for multiplayer mode, so does it necessarily mean she's not dead?

Wow! Turned out to be right after all! I'm actually more surprised Rouge hasn't been confirmed for multiplayer, actually.. Maybe there's more than 8 hopefully but I doubt it (in reminiscence to Shuffle highly). We'll have to wait and see if she appears in Story; I HIGHLY think she will make an appearance. I don't know if she'll have a "role" per se as does Tails, Knuckles and Eggman. But we'll see... I'm glad the date was moved back so I can get this game even sooner. ^_^ Knuckles sonic8 23:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Um, hello? The lyrics keep getting removed because it's copyright infringement. Namely, you're horning in on Sonic Team's trademark. You're really not supposed to do those kinds of things on Wikipedia. --Luigifan 12:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Abilities

Is it possible to edit this? In Sonic 2006, Blaze seems to be using variants of some of her moves from Rush. Blaze even seems to do Homing Attacks in the game. (If you need proof, go the official Japanese site and look at the Silver gameplay video.) Aguni Dragon-OX 22:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello, can someone help me out? DeathGodDragon EDGE 07:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh c'mon! Could someone please help me out?! ChromeWulf ZX 19:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I would, but I don't have the game! XD...oh wait...I have the guide! I'll post the moves soon.GrandMasterGalvatron 07:52, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Alternate world or future???

what is true and what is false, in sonic rush she came from an alternate world and in sonic the hedgehog she came from the future, but what is real ìm so confused.

I'm starting to think we're either seeing a translation flub or retcon. In Sonic 06, it's made clear that Silver and Blaze come from a possible future. Rivals makes the same distinction with Eggman Nega--HellCat86 16:07, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Just like Blaze was a princess in Rush and a queen in 06, the alternate dimesion thing probably got retconned. Silver and Blaze come from an possible future that existed when Ilbis was released and mananged to destroy the world. DeathGodDragon EDGE 01:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Blaze didn't die at the end of Silver's story, she sealed herself [and Iblis] away in a parallel dimension. It's within this alternate universe where she assumed the role of the protector of the Sol Emeralds, henceforth leading to the events of Sonic Rush. --Luigifan 00:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Blaze did die in 06, but because Solaris (and Mephiles and Iblis along with it) was wiped out, it wouldn't matter if she died or lived in an alternate universe after sealing Iblis within her. Due to the story, all the events of 06 didn't happen. DeathGodDragon EDGE 03:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Sega have gone and created a major plot hole. The script writers have gone off their rocker, leaving fans to speculate. Quite clever actually... It might've been a plan to make people buy the next Sonic games to find out... Hyper the Hedgehog 07:40, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Wow! I never thought of it that way.. wouldn't be surprised if that's what their secret intentions were; makes sense = a build-up for future games. Knuckles sonic8 20:43, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Yep, this could have been Sega's scheme all along, but I didn't really care for plot holes; I mean the entire StH series is chock-full of em! DeathGodDragon EDGE 23:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The whole Blaze sealing herself and iblis in the other dimension would have explained the Rush incident except Rivals had to ruin it by having Eggman Nega come from the future. Unless there are two Eggman nega's. the only solution to this plothole is to that Sonic next gen(or Sonic Rush) is not canon. Delsait 03:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Or that Nega was lying in Sonic Rush about being an alternate version of Eggman, or that Nega was lying about being Eggman's descendant. It still fits together just fine. --Ultima 22:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

play as blaze under certain condition ?

Huh? what do you mean like unlocking her own story line or playing the extra level as her —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.176.247.119 (talk) 04:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

I think it simply refers to you playing as her in certain segments of the game. --Luigifan 12:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Blaze Has...Chaos Control?

In the Chaos Control article someone put down Blaze as a user. I'm in doubt, but anyone who notices this post, should check out the article, and then say what you think about it. ChromeWulf ZX 04:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I suppose you could say that. Chaos Control is what got Iblis and her into that other dimension, and Silver punked out. GrandMasterGalvatron 18:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

The question is, was it Chaos Control, or just mundane teleportation? I'm guessing it was Chaos Control, because I don't think Blaze is able to teleport, and, besides, ordinary teleportation probably couldn't get you to another dimension. Still, you'd think she would have said "Chaos Control!" or something... But, of course, I'm just speculating about this... --Luigifan 19:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Who knows? It could be another Sonic Team plothole. ChromeWulf ZX 00:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Why in the World?

Why does it show alot about blaze in Silver's Bold textRelationshps section than Silver in this article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SilverandBlazefan (talk • contribs) 04:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC). Blaze4Sonic&Sonic4Blaze 04:09, 18 February 2007 (UTC)SilverandBlaze4-ever

Sorry, I don't read broken English. --Luigifan 16:28, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Blaze is a He-she??????

If it says Blaze is female then why does it call her a he instead of she on this page????

Yes, I noticed this too and made the according changes. Some poor, sad, soul either spent a long time on a practical joke or were genuinely ignorant. I wasn't logged in at the time I made the changes but c'est la vie.Old Ma Hart 19:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I think I've figured out a solution that pleases everyone

Okay heres my theory. Basically Blaze is born in the dimension in Rush with royal parents. At some point in time Mephiles power or Mephiles himself in a different form somehow warps a very young Blaze(think like Creams age) to the future of Sonic's dimension separating her from her parents. An orphaned Blaze is an outcast in Silvers future due to her strange powers and her claim that she is a princess. Eventually she meets Silver and they become fast friends. She also learns to keep her cool explaining her change from a hothead in Rush to a calmhead in Sonic Next gen.

However due to Solaris(and Mephiles being erased as well) being erased from time. Blaze never dies or gets transported to the future of Sonic’s dimension. While Blaze gets respect due to being princess she unfortunately doesn’t never meets Silver(though they might still have faint memories of eachother) or makes any friends explaining her highly anti social attitude in Sonic rush.

As for Nega,after Rivals he somehow manages to escape from the card and get into Blaze’s dimension. Immediately finding out he is feared not laughed at because no one remembers his ancestry. Nega decides to start over, forget the past and become a new mad scientist. He makes a new archenemy in Blaze the cat. As for his relationship with Eggman,he decides to let bygones be bygones,that they are incredibly similar,and realizes the destructive power they would have if they teamed up,he forgives Eggman. Eggman never one to turn down a partnership agrees and the events of Sonic rush start. As only Shadow and Silver found out Eggman was really Eggman nega in Rivals,this is Sonic’s first real meeting with Eggman Nega. Delsait 01:28, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

You know, I've seen a post exactly like this on Game FAQs. --Luigifan 12:06, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

That is because I'm the guy that posted it on gamefaqs. Delsait 22:51, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

A-ha. I see... --Luigifan 12:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Can anyone on the Wikipedia see that Sonic Rush is more than likely non-canon? It contradicts the events of both Sonic the Hedgehog and Sonic Rivals. And besides, that theory will never be seen as plausible until Sega actually states that Sonic Rush is canon.Michael Mad 10:06, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, as much as I'd like Sonic Rush to be canon, it isn't very likely. --Luigifan 23:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Sonic Rush Adventure will probably not be either. Blaze's stroyline from Rush was much more interesting because there were so many opportunities to expand upon it. --Libertyernie2 19:47, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Unless Sonic Team specifically states that Sonic Rush isn't canon, we must assume that it is. Furthermore, they were working on Sonic Rush and Sonic '06 at the same time. They probably planned Blaze's role in Sonic '06 before Sonic Rush was released. Silver's Ending in Sonic '06 seems to imply that Blaze ends up in her dimension during Sonic Rush, while Eggman Nega simply goes their later on after coming to the past (posing as an alternate Eggman). The plots can fit together, so I don't see why everyone keeps claiming Sonic Rush to be non-canon. Even then, though, this is all stuff we've built up and shouldn't be added to the article. --Ultima 22:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe Blaze and Silver still exist in the same time period, but because of the recton, they never met each other. This would explain why Silver never mentioned Blaze in Sonic Rivals, and whi Blaze never compared Sonic to Silver in Sonic Rush. But yes, speculation like this shouldn't be added to the page. Libertyernie2 19:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Some unusual info...

This states that Blaze is self-conscious about her chest size and she becomes upset if someone teases her about it. It's from Concept-Mobius. I know it's a fan site, but they really don't make things like that up. They were right about Burning Blaze and Wave and Rouge's rivalry. Should this be put into this article? [2] 206.66.217.144 20:59, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

NO! --Luigifan 11:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I wonder where they got that info... It doesn't sound like something Sonic Team would write. Gurko 08:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

No, it sounds like a vandal. I have seen it before, and it's always been erased quickly. Just be glad it's not the return of Angel the Cat. --Luigifan 10:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Aw yeah, I remember that... XD. Anyway, I read about the breast thing at Sonic Cult, who claimed that they had translated it from something. But it's probably not true. Gurko 20:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

What is it with some of the sicko fans out there and female character chest sizes? I mean honestly, can't people write articles without bringing that kind of stuff up; it's disgusting! Sonic is supposed to be at least somewhat family friendly; they shouldn't be talking about stuff like that even if they do have swear words. User:Denjo

Luigifan: *steals Amy's Piko-Piko hammer* Come back here! You'll be sorry for lying about AtC! *runs*

What?!? I did not post that... --Luigifan 16:24, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, maybe this info applies in Japan. I mean, if you the Japanese version of anime like Sonic X and Kirby: Right Back at Ya!, the characters swear at a standard that's not suited for the most adult broadcast television shows like in Family Guy, these words would be bleeped. Even a few Pokémon episodes in Japan have the word "Damn". There's a very different family-friendly standard there than there is in the United States. 206.66.217.144 16:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Actually, as I recall, that is accurate info. I do believe that it appeared on the American Sonic the Hedgehog website, if I'm not mistaken, though I suppose that I could be. A thing people keep confusing is that they think her "cloak" is her actual clothing. However, her cloak merely covers her clothes. It is possible that it's a special material which covers it up, possibly even similar to Sonic's curse in Sonic and the Secret Rings. Unless a legitimate source (like an official site) confirms the info, though, then it shouldn't be added. --Ultima 22:11, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Blaze's "Death"

Some people seem to be seriously confused about this. However, shall I explain it? First of all, Blaze didn't even die in the first place. Upon watching the Silver Episode ending of Sonic '06, does it imply anywhere that she actually died? Furthermore, even then, time was reset. If Blaze had died, she'd still be alive as the events no longer occurred. The truth of actually what DID happen to Blaze can be solved by original research (and I've attempted to do so myself), but for now we must wait until an official confirmation is revealed. Whatever the case, Blaze still never died, so we shouldn't fret over it. The references to Blaze's "death" in the article can also be changed to say that we do not know what happened to Blaze instead of assuming that she died (despite the fact that the scene clearly indicates that she was transported to an alternate dimension; nothing at all about dying). --Ultima 21:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

The Blaze's death conspiracy might be cleared up since Blaze is appearing in Sonic Rush Adventure, but til then, who knows? But if she did die, it would have probably been negated by Elise blowing out Solaris' flame. ChromeWulf ZX 22:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Possibility: There are two Blazes.

Think about it. Blaze from Sonic Rush is from another dimension. Blaze from Sonic the Hedgehog is said to be from the future, though. So what's the easiest explanation? That there is a version of Blaze in Sonic's natural world, and a version of Blaze from another dimension that exists in the same time as Sonic's period. Same goes for Eggman Nega / NEGA - Eggman Nega is from another dimension and presumably Eggman's counterpart, while Eggman NEGA from Sonic Rivals is Eggman's descendant from the future that shares a resemblance to the other Eggman. Think of it as a parallel universe... In addition, since the events of Sonic the Hedgehog led to a good future, Eggman NEGA may not exist in the original future of Sonic's world that was erased from history. I think it's a solid theory. But I guess we can't know for sure one way or another until Sonic Rushed Adventure comes out. Diesir 19:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

That's a pretty nice theory. Maybe the two worlds merged completely at some point in time, and the future Blaze is a decendant of the present one. Libertyernie2 20:04, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree. But until Sonic Team clears this up, we'll never know. ChromeWulf ZX 22:25, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Very interesting. Very interesting indeed. But as ChromeWulf said, Sonic Team is the one to clear this up.-- A big Tails fan

Funny thing is, Rush Adventure seriously contradicts both Sonic 06 AND Sonic Rivals, as it goes with the alternate dimension story, and that Eggman and Nega are allies, despite Nega's back-stabbing in Rivals. What gives? I support the two Blazes theory. It's the only one that fully makes sense, in my opinion... Anyone feel like noting it in the article? Besides, the 'explanation' in the article clearly isn't a universal definition of 'dimension', and one I really don't agree with. --Cronosonic (talk) 11:15, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup?

I just read the article and it seams to be very repetitive, should we clean it up? eg. it mention that she is a pyrokinetic three time, and mentions that she is friend with silver a bit. I would just put all that on the first part of the article, stop repeating ourselves. Sonicjosh 03:44, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I did a bit of cleanup. It needs more, just be bold and go for it when you see redundancy. Paul Haymon 05:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

References

I've be having a look through various websites, & have found more sources we can use for reference. There's now a total of 10 for this article. Hopefully that's enough, if not, feel free to add more. Inferno Sonic 16:53 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Not the future

As said by Sonic city Blaze is from another dimension. [3]. Delsait (talk) 02:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Is this an official website? 99.142.91.126 (talk) 22:51, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes its the official European Sonic site.Fairfieldfencer (talk) 13:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)Fairfieldfencer

Official American Sega sites often get information wrong.

Sonic 2006: It is revealed that Blaze is from the Future, and she knows Silver. Blaze makes no reference to knowing Sonic,, so we can assume this game is 'chronologically' the first game for Blaze to appear in. After the timeline is reset, the future changes...

Sonic Rush: Eggman Nega appears, due to the different future, which is referred to as "another dimension". Blaze also comes from the future to regain the Sol emeralds. The mix in timelines is due to Eggman and Nega's works. At the end of the game, Blaze travels back to her time, which is still referred to as "Another dimension".

Sonic Rush Adventure: Sonic and Tails go into Blazes "dimension", and battle enemies.

Sonic Rivals: Eggman Nega reveals that he is Eggmans descendant to Shadow, and thus proves he, (and Blaze) are from the future. Silver comes from the future again, and does not recognise Sonic, or anyone, due to the time being reset in Sonic 2006. nega reveals he has come to capture his ancestor, as Eggman's failed attempts ruin his descendants name, and thus he has travelled through time to correct this. Sonic Rivals 2: Carries on from there...

As for the whole Queen/Princess thing... Think about it... if a timeline changes... other things change.... Blaze is a Queen in 2006, yet a princess in the DS games... We have 5 games from this series. One (x360) states that they are from the future, and then the timeline resets.

One series (DS) tells us Nega, Blaze etc are from another dimension.

Another series (PSP) tells us that Nega, Silver etc are from the future

If that wasn't enough proof, then think of this: Sega has always been interested in Time travel in the Sonic series (Such as Sonic CD, Chaos Control, Sonic Adventure flashbacks). Yuji naka (now departed from the team) was also a fan of Dragon Ball Z: Silver is more or less a direct homage to Trunks, and the whole "Timeline change" is also reminiscent of Dragon ball Z.

Y'know, you guys, Sega have been mixing games up chronologically since Sonic Battle (which was released around the same time as heroes, where Shadow did not have a memory, yet in Battle, makes direct reference to Gerald, Maria, and his past in detail), and it continues to baffle and confuse you. Really, they're doing the whole "Zelda/Metroid" thing. Blaze IS from the future, however in the Rush games we have not yet found this out, and DS owners possibly won't, well, unless you own a PSP and Rivals one and two. But really: Blaze- From the future. The site is either wrong (again... there were millions of mistakes on the Shadow website, and Riders), or they're trying to keep it a secret from you Rush fans. The thing about all the "fan theories" is that they tend to make things up or place things which COULD happen, however, as you'll see all I've done to correct this issue is place the games in an order different to their actual releases, and the SEGA sites are hardly trustworthy when it comes to in-depth story information.

I won't edit the page itself, as I feel it would cause arguments and such, however, I would muchly appreciate it if my posts information was taken into account when another edit is considered. =] after all, I only wrote in to help. Tquinnathome1 (talk) 21:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Whos Marine the racoon.

Im deleting that part of the article untill I find out this isnt fan made. Fwooshlewooshle (talk) 23:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Marine the Raccoon is from Sonic Rush Adventure.  Doktor  Wilhelm  23:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I havent played that gameFwooshlewooshle (talk) 23:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Hehehe, well neither have I!  Doktor  Wilhelm  23:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I thought everyone knew about lil' miss hyper annoyance.SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 23:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I feel sorry for Marine, in the first few parts of the game, blaze was really mean to her, I mean, not letting her join the adventure? Vitual aelita (talk) 12:14, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, Marine was being pretty annoying, and childish, while Blaze was taking stuff seriously. One can only take so much Marine!SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 21:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Interactions Section

I have removed this redundant plot section, again: see WP:NOT#PLOT. DO NOT revert the edits again without a valid reason to do so (i.e reliable third party sources demonstrating the importance of this stuff. Bridies (talk) 21:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Personality Section

This section is gone (again) because it is original research. We can't have a section relating editors' perceptions on a subjective aspect of the character, such as personality. In order to have such a section, look up articles on the character in reliable sources (e.g. magazines such as IGN) and use what it written there. Bridies (talk) 14:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I plan on remaking the personality section with the information from Sonic City with minor OR, it'll be a few days though as the site is currently going through maintenance, (probably something to do with the vote), is that alright with you.Fairfieldfencer (talk) 14:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by 'minor' OR, but it doesn't sound promising. Better to use stuff like: The purple newcomer is the mysterious Blaze the Cat, a fast feline who is a 14-year-old guardian of the Sol Emeralds and who has the ability to manipulate fire. Normally cool and collected, she gives the impression that she keeps a tight lid on her emotions, but this may not be her true nature. Despite her calm appearance, she can lose her temper, and when she does, she's quite scary to be around. Blaze the Cat is yet another addition to Sonic's menagerie of pals. Blaze is reserved, disciplined, and somewhat shy and prefers to build a wall around herself when it comes to strangers. However, once she has become friends with someone, she tends to be slightly more intimate than what's considered normal. She understands her role as a priestess, which is to protect the Sol Emeralds, and she takes that role seriously, perhaps too seriously for her own good. from Staff,Sonic Rush Character Spotlight: Blaze, GameSpot, Nov 1, 2005, Accessed March 12 2008 Bridies (talk) 15:40, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The minor OR was the fact that she is afraid of heights. (PS: Can I use what you just said).Fairfieldfencer (talk) 15:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

The stuff in italics is (word for word) from the review I linked. Ideally it should be worded differently, but just quoting it is fine, too. Bridies (talk) 15:53, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I've remade the personality section. What do you think.Fairfieldfencer (talk) 16:30, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I've rewritten it so it's not word for word. Bridies (talk) 00:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Alternate Timeline?

I just saw the ending of Silver's story where Blaze seals Iblis within her soul. She tells Silver and I quote "Quick! use your Chaos Control to seal it in another dimension!" I guess that means Sonic Rush happens after Next-Gen. Even when Elise blew out the flames at the end, I guess Blaze didn't return. The only plothole left is Eggman Nega...GENERALZERO (talk) 02:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Well...Not completely...We'll just have to wait, and see...  Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R.  19:16, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Kind of sad…

I am kind of sad she got merged in to the List of characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (games), but it's ok I hope her article gets big enough to be moved back to here. I like my favorite character having her own article.--Talon (talk) 18:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

• I know it can be a little disappointing when wikipedia takes a turn away from what we'd like to see. But Blaze the Cat didn't meet wikipedia's general notability guideline and was at risk of deletion. I'm glad you've taken the optimistic view and realized that this is never the last word, and sections that are improved can eventually be split back out into their own article. On wikipedia, this isn't just a question of size, but also of good research. If you can find a reliable gaming news site that covers Blaze, you should add it to her section in the list of characters. Eventually, with enough references, you can support a split of that section into a new article. Just to give you an idea, Sonic the Hedgehog had some great coverage in 1up. If you could find anything even half that good for Blaze, then she would meet the notability requirements and content requirements to have an article. Randomran (talk) 20:55, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

poor soul

blaze may be a princess but she is still a little miserable.marine is an annoying little kid, her servants just serve her, and her best friend is far in the future.her newest friend (other than marine) are in other dimentions and cant see her much.aside from protecting the sol emeralds ,stopping nega , and running the kingdom she has nothing to do and no friends she can have fun with the way she likes to play.sega should just send her to sonics dimention or send silver to her dimention other wise she will be a poor soul forever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.24.113.176 (talk) 18:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Relationships

It might be true blaze and silver like each other but other peoople consider sonic and blaze (but most think silver and blaze since amy is fixed on sonic).Its unknown that blaze likes either one of them but they say she should stay single for awhile until theirs more info about the characters.Bunnyourunt303 (talk) 05:54, 28 December 2008 (UTC)Bunnyourunt

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