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The article states that "none" was the club's ground.

Please note that their home ground for most of their existence was Hole-i'th'-Wall, Blackburn.

Also, whilst they didn't have an "away" strip as such, when there was a clash of colours, if they were a younger club than their opponents, the rules of the time stipulated that they had to change into their alternate kit: dark blue shirts and white shorts. (Source: "Shooting Stars")

Could somebody with the expertise please modify the relevant info in the article? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.167.49 (talk) 01:53, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that all but one of the contemporary newspaper reports of the 1884 SF with Queen's Park give a 4-0 win to QP. 4-1 seems to be a mistake. Olympic didn't score.

On the other hand, all modern sources, including the official FA website, give 4-1. Maybe easiest just to take the scoreline out altogether -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nearly all primary sources give 4-0. Still, let's not quibble. Keep up the good work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.166.169 (talk) 16:38, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For interest, extract from Blackburn Times 8th March 1884, reporting on Olympic's FA Cup SF with Queen's Park: "Just before closing a brilliant run on the part of Dr. Smith nearly the whole length of the field brought about a fourth and final goal to his men, who consequently won by this number to none." Sporting Chronicle 3rd March 1884: "At the call of time Queen's Park remained the victors by four goals to none." Manchester Guardian 3rd March 1884: "...Queen's Park being thus victorious by four goals to none." The Times 3rd March 1884: "The Olympians failed to score, and were thus defeated by four goals to none." OK? So I'm now going to add the correct score to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.161.66 (talk) 16:28, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kudos to ChrisTheDude for doing a great job on this page! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.114.232 (talk) 10:01, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Be great if someone could carefully remove the stuff on History; the game's codification was just as much led by Sheffield as anywhere else. By the 1860s football well extremely well developed in the city playing to their own Sheffield rules, independent of public school codes. Indeed, thanks to Adrian Harvey we now know that the Sheffield FA rescued the Football Association from near or complete oblivion in 1866-67. Thus the idea that codified football spread from south to north is eroneous, this notwithstanding the formation of Blackburn Rovers in 1875 by 2 ex-Shrewsbury School men. By the end of 1875, over 80 football clubs were covered in match reports in the Derby Mercury playing what were to become known as 'association rules.' The question of diffusion of codified football in England in this period is still being researched by historians of sport. The idea that 'modern' football spread simply from public schools to lower classes is now largely discredited, or very much in the process of becoming so.

Although a public school Shrewsbury is located firmly in the Midlands. Also the mention of Sheffield FC here is a bit of a red herring as the subject is the split between the two sources of early football respectively public school clubs on one hand and the working class clubs/players on the other. I believe that Sheffield FC although in the north were a middle class club with more in common in many ways with the public school ethos hence their eventual eclipse by professional Sheffield clubs. Also as far back as we are discussing it wasn't so much 'northern' professional clubs as north-WESTERN and midlands professional clubs. Sheffield Wednesday on the other side of the Pennines being a bit of an anomaly and clinging to the amateur way of doing things until it almost cost them their existence.

Special:Contributions/90.194.122.156|90.194.122.156]] (talk) 13:19, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What sort of change did you have in mind? Would changing "However, the game had spread to the industrial towns of the north by the following decade" to "However, the association rules had spread to the industrial towns of the north by the following decade" achieve the desired result? I don't think this article does the Sheffield rules a disservice; Olympic only ever played association rules. Oldelpaso (talk) 18:12, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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