Talk:Black English
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[edit]Every page related to the language of Black people is routinely subjected to vandalism and stupidity; and thus this redirect is protected in advance. -- Hoary (talk) 00:20, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Reconsidering this article
[edit]I just came across this article. The explanation at the top of the page,
- Black English is a term used for both dialects of English and English-based pidgins and creoles, and whose meaning depends considerably upon the context, and particularly the part of the world.
doesn't indicate that the term is connected, even loosely with the notion that the dialects listed are spoken by people considered, in their respective locations, to be "black". But surely that's a prerequisite for anyone to call a particular English dialect, creole, or pidgin "black" English. Otherwise, all dialects of English would be included, such as Cockney and Scouse. Can someone please provide an accurate, more specific description of the intended contents of the list?
What is the intent behind this article? In theory, as a disambiguation page, its purpose is to provide assistance for someone entering the term "Black English" by providing links to articles on all the subjects that might be known to some person or other as "Black English". This page should only list such subjects, and not every English variation spoken by people who are considered black. For example, unless Guyanese Creole is called "Black English" by anyone, unless there are people looking for information on Guyanese Creole who would likely think to look for that information under the term "Black English", Guyanese Creole shouldn't be in this list. I'm wondering whether this list should be pared down to African American Vernacular English and Black British English.
In fact, what are Bislama and Nauruan Pidgin English and Pijin language (Solomon Islands) and Tok Pisin (New Guinea) doing here at all? Are the speakers of any of those languages even considered "black" by any population of white English speakers? —Largo Plazo (talk) 12:33, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
To read more check out this blog http://africanamericanenglish.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shipsrinivasan (talk • contribs) 01:24, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Why Aboriginals?
[edit]Why the heck are aborigines on this article. They aren't black but descendants of Asians. Sure they have "black" skin, but shouldn't they be on Asian-English articles? If nobody minds, I might change it. -Anonymous — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.233.103.238 (talk) 01:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Article about Black American English / Ebonics. Why is Africa here?
[edit]I have scoured the net and any reference to the term "Black English" or "Ebonics" as it is commonly known is made in reference to Black Americans. This begs the question, what is Africa doing here? Africans who speaks Pidgin English as a first language should be in that article, not this one. To put them here is original research. A Bartenders Vegs (talk) 14:15, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
Changed this page extensively and got rid of list
[edit]This page in its previous form did not contain any linguistically accurate information, had no citations to back up its (dubious) claims, and was merely a potentially offensive list of English-related languages spoken by people with dark skin. It makes more sense to make this page link to the much more extensive and linguistically accurate African American Vernacular English page, which already includes "Black English" as a potential synonym. So that's what I did. Teresacurl (talk) 05:33, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
[edit]There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:African-American English which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 21:59, 12 July 2019 (UTC)