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I added the Non-Neutral POV tag due to text that used to be included in the bottom of this article which clearly reflected the point of view of the author and made multiple, non-referenced and non fact based accusations against the state of Israel. After reading this section multiple times, I felt that the entirety of it was biased an non-neutral so I removed the section from the article.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhysticlight (talk • contribs) 03:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The systematic obstruction of Palestinian education not only violates the human rights of the individuals involved, but is also an attack on the development of Palestinian society as a whole. Palestinian Universities contribute to future Palestinian generations by teaching some 120,000 students and employing around 10,000 academics and staff every year. They also produce local knowledge which is a most valuable resource for the cultural and economic development of a society and nation. It is essential therefore, for foreign governments to call on Israel to cease the isolation of Palestinian educational institutions and to at least demand reciprocal treatment for their citizens who wish to visit and study in Palestine.

Students are arrested on their way to and from university at military checkpoints, while others are arrested during army raids on student homes and dormitories. These students are taken to a detention center and interrogated, often involving some form of abuse or torture such as beatings, sleep and food depravation and being tied in painful positions for long periods.

During the First Intifada, between 1987-1992, Palestinian education was effectively made illegal by the Israeli occupation and all Palestinian universities, schools and even kindergartens were closed down by military order for nearly five years. Since September 2000, tens of schools have been closed by the Israeli Army and turned into military barracks, while hundreds more have been forced to close periodically due to prolonged curfew and obstructed access. Hebron University and the Palestine Polytechnic University were closed down by military order for 8 months in 2003, denying over 6000 students their right to education.

The military closure of the Ramallah-Birzeit road by 'Surda Roadblock' between March 2001 to December 2003 effectively put Birzeit University under siege for nearly 3 years. The road is now open again but remains subject to frequent 'flying checkpoints' when soldiers and Army jeeps block the road to the University, preventing access to students and teachers trying to reach their classes. Surda Roadblock is one of over 700 checkpoints and roadblocks throughout the West Bank and Gaza Strip and a clear example of the strangulation of normal life by Israel's illegal policies of collective punishment.

The construction of the Wall through Palestinian cities and villages in the West Bank is having a devastating impact on Palestinians' access to services, including education. The Wall isolates and divides Palestinian population centers, cutting students off from their schools and universities and literally bulldozing through educational institutions in its path.

Just a slight criticism of your citicism. You removed un-sourced material that you personally disagreed with but left the POV tag? Why? I'm removing to POV tag as the material is no longer in the article.....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 12:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

hi there, although im new to wikis this is a technical change and i believe it to be a neccessity. the name of this term should be "bir zeit" and not "birzeit". this should also be corrected in the article about marwan barghouti. to your consideration.

Thanks for your contribution. While that seems logical, in fact the university itself uses "Birzeit", as on its website, so we should go with their version. Palmiro | Talk 15:36, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed someone tried to link an image from the Arabic article to this one. Since I don't know Arabic I can't read the copyright restrictions of the image (I was going to upload it on the English Wiki). Here is the image link [1]. Al 07:49, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

New additions

Can people please refer to the style guide WP:UNIGUIDE when making additions to the article? I am going to move the point about members of the negotiating team to a Notable people section. Stories about protests and controversies can be included, but not in the history section, and they shouldn't unbalance the article. Thanks. Itsmejudith (talk) 09:02, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding exclusion

Amira Hass says she regards the exclusion as being meant against Israeli Jews (which is also something that is left out here) but anyway, that is not enough to say there actually is such a policy. --IRISZOOM (talk) 19:51, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

True. Actually the only evidence that such a policy exists is that some faculty members at Birzeit told Hass that there is one. The university's statement effectively denies there is a blanket policy. Zero^talk 23:19, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct on that point.

The link to Algemeiner Journal doesn't give something more than reporting Hass' view but in another tone. The same problem regarding the title here can be found in the text in that section, where the alleged ban on Israeli Jews mentioned by Algemeiner (who, again, took the info from Hass), is here changed to being against Jews generally. This is unacceptable editing for these two reasons. --IRISZOOM (talk) 23:41, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Moreover, even the story about Pappe comes from one of the two Birzeit lecturers. And one of them told her that she would have been able to stay if she hadn't written "Haaretz" as her affiliation on the registration form. So, far from being established fact, it is decidedly dubious. Zero^talk 00:30, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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what happened in 1934?

There is no mention of 1934 in the history described in this article. However the circular logo shown in the infobox says "1934" under the tree. So what is the significance of 1934? Zero^talk 05:33, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The year under the log is 1924 and not 1934. The 2 and 3 in Arabic are close to each other and can be sometimes confusing — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.119.255.88 (talk) 16:04, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seemingly irrelevant parts of the article

I have removed some of the article since they seem to be simple fluff pieces for the university, flaunting some of the projects it has done, which in my opinion should not per se be part of a page; if I wanted to read those I would visit their own website. Comparing this to the page of, for example Delft University of Technology, one reads more information that a random discussion evening that was held or a specific exhibition, especially when it is written like it could be on the website of the organization itself. LeviCreativity (talk) 21:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]