Talk:Bill Simon (musician)

Multiple issues

As it stands, there are multiple issues with this article. The author hasn't written from a NPOV (they appear to be related to the subject), it contains no sources or citations from verifible third party and reads more like an obituary than an encyclopaedic entry. These issues need to be addressed.

I suggest the author reads What Wikipedia is not- -especially 2.5

RichardLowther (talk) 21:20, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've done my research and have rewritten the entry, deleting trivia, adding relevant information, links and verifiable source material.

Could the tag at the top be updated (or hopefully removed) to reflect this? Simonfamily (talk) 18:47, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- I have reinserted one of the tags: the tag noting that no inline citations are present. In order for this tag to be removed, it is necessary to not just list the sources (as has been done), but to cite them inline. This means that at the end of a statement which uses information from a specific source, it is referenced using <ref>. See my quick guide to referencing below! I hope this helps, let me know if you need more help. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quick Guide to References

If you find a book, magazine, newspaper article, etc that you want to use as a reference, just type one of the following after the information in the article which the reference is about:

Newspaper/Magazine article:

<ref>''Title of article'',author of article, (Title of newspaper/magazine, date of article)</ref>

Book:

<ref>''Title of book'', author of book, (publisher, date of publication)</ref>

Website:

<ref>[http://web-page-address ''Title of webpage''], author of page, date of page's creation, website name</ref>

For example:

Newspaper/Magazine article: <ref>''An article in a well-known newspaper'', John E. Beegood, (The New York Times, 1 August 1987)</ref>
Book: <ref>''How do I create references?'', Met-al Icca, (Heinemann Publishing, 1964)</ref>
Website: <ref>[http://www.a-reputable-website.org/a_useful_page.html ''How to Create Useful References''], PhantomSteve, 12 March 1999, a-reputable-website.org</ref>

Then at the bottom of the page, make sure you have the following two lines:

==References==
<references/>

This would generate (for the above examples):

Newspaper/Magazine article: ^[1]
Book: ^[2]
Website: ^[3]

References

^ An article in a well-known newspaper, John E. Beegood, (The New York Times, 1 August 1987)
^ How do I create references?, Met-al Icca, (Heinemann Publishing, 1964)
^ How to Create Useful References, PhantomSteve, 12 March 1999, a-reputable-website.org

With basic references like this in place, more experienced editors can tidy them up! The hard bit can be finding references!

Please make sure you read the guideline Reliable Sources which details the kind of sources Wikipedia prefers to use.

If you have any questions, just ask me! Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Citation question

Thank you for correcting the style issue and the external links. I could use some help with the citations. I tried adding 4 but am unsure how to complete the operation. Do I have enough citations? It is frustrating that many of the jazz experts are now deceased, especially Bill Simon's close friend who George Simon wrote the definitive book on the Big Band Era. Is it possible to find a Wikipedia editor who specializes in jazz who could also advise us? (Simonfamily (talk) 17:48, 9 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]