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"Chudweed"

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I've noticed an edit-war over the name "chudweed"

While this name may have started as a joke, references to it have gone viral, and the association of "chudweed" with Biden's Hyperborea is now of political and cultural significance due to its association with the 2024 US Presidential election. It is now arguably the most culturally significant aspect of Biden's Hyperborea.

I suggest we create a section to describe this. What are your thoughts? 2601:285:C080:2330:F131:3E80:195E:F9D1 (talk) 16:47, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@2601:285:C080:2330:F131:3E80:195E:F9D1
This is hardly relevant enough to include in the article. Are there any articles referencing this plant or the name "chudweed" in relation to Biden or the 2024 US election? Is "chudweed" even attested in writing? Or is this someone's attempt at trolling? Tetragnathos (talk) 17:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Google shows that outside this article, the word "chudweed" appears only in a couple of tweets and 4chan posts. It is most definitely not a real name for this plant, and it only has "political and cultural significance" to a handful of extremely online people. Zacwill (talk) 17:16, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, this plant was basically long forgotten and irrelevant to probably the entire world before the “Chudweed” revived it, so I believe it deserved to be described as an erroneous name at least. AtomicCrescentRoll (talk) 17:49, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is nonsense. If I edited some random chemical or plant or mineral to include a dumb joke, would the fact that I did so deserve an entry on the page? This is one wikipedia edit, its not like its a widely known joke, it has no social or cultural signifigance. We must remove all mentions of "chudweed" whether noted to be erroneous or not. 2601:147:C100:F400:9CCA:D673:1C81:EA68 (talk) 17:55, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It would be given enough outside cultural significance. There’s no reason for things that happen on Wikipedia to be excluded from Wikipedia. But one could probably argue in this case that there’s not enough influence 108.147.171.73 (talk) 19:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. Only if it's a name + it got popular Gastropod Gaming (talk) 00:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tbf, it would be pretty funny if the edit war did wind up causing it to become an actual nickname causing it to be included in the article for real. 2601:5C1:300:DF50:9859:E854:CC46:49CD (talk) 02:17, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The answer is really stupid and nobody is going to like it: this would be notable enough for inclusion if some tabloid wrote about the argument we are having right now, which is something that often happens, but until then it does not have wp:sigcov. jp×g🗯️ 13:38, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Zacwill As expected, it's just a trolling attempt. Thank you for your verifying Tetragnathos (talk) 18:00, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Chudweed has more results than one of the accepted common names, northern beggarticks. Chudweed has 683 results, northern beggarticks only has 8. That means chudweed is 85 times more commonly used to describe this species of plant than one of the common names this article lists. A common name is a name that is common, and this name is more common than one of the names the article lists, therefore chudweed should be included. Cro-magnus (talk) 05:33, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is also precedent for this. The article for Bathykorus bouilloni, a species of jellyfish, includes its nickname as the Darth Vader jellyfish. Much like this species of plant, most people who know about this jellyfish know about it because of its resemblance to Darth Vader. Most who know about this plant know about it because of its humorous internet nickname, chudweed. Cro-magnus (talk) 05:40, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Chudweed has become a common name for the plant, if you google Chudweed it will appear, so why not have it written here? SarydIskander (talk) 01:49, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with this sentiment. A common name is a name that is common. A common name does not need approval from some higher authority to be legitimate. The fact that this previously obscure article has gotten this amount of attention proves that chudweed is a common name relative to how well-known the plant is. If it weren't for the name "chudweed" most of the people here, including the ones who disagree with calling it chudweed, wouldn't be here. Cro-magnus (talk) 02:20, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
On one hand, the plant wasn't called Chudweed before a trolling attempt, but on the other hand this has become somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy. This is a very obscure plant, and most of the people aware of its existence know it as Chudweed. Given that the Chudweed meme is the most culturally relevant and well-known thing about the plant I think it deserves a section. Cro-magnus (talk) 04:01, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a very funny vandalism, and I appreciate the effort, but if there are no sources saying this, then it cannot go in the darn article. We do not get to just decide stuff on our own and then write it down (if we did I would have a couple freakin things to say about politics!!!). jp×g🗯️ 13:36, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No one knows about this plant anyway and It'd be pretty funny if it actually was called "Chudweed". Maybe more people would actually recognize the plant in the first place 2A00:F41:18BE:A27E:70DE:B96A:A420:E76E (talk) 19:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22chudweed%22&tbm=nws&source=lnms We need something that isn't KYM to be a reference for this; as of now I see nothing.
Just throwing this out there: wide-open opportunity for anyone who's got an Internet-culture column to do something extremely funny (will gladly contribute an interview in my capacity as an administrator). jp×g🗯️ 19:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just added a popular culture section Jvneslvt (talk) 20:23, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Chud is a soyjak. Basically 4 channers use soyjaks (caricatures) to represent opinions. Incel stuff basically. They keep vandalising it because the name Biden’s Hyperborea has the surname of Joe Biden (soyjaks are mostly political) and Hyperborea which is this Nazi dimension thing like Agartha. 92.30.35.35 (talk) 19:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lots of people find soyjaks amusing, not just 4ch and the sharty guys, so my guess is that people are vandalizing the article because it's funny that it sounds like a politics thing (e.g. Biden, who is a mainstream center-left politician, and Hyperborea, a thing mostly talked about by far-right lunatics). I think it is mostly just an amusing juxtaposition, rather than genuinely malicious intent (e.g. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/bidens-hyperborea-chudweed ) although it is indeed sad that 4chan is nowadays (and the sharty was always) infested with batshit racist right-wing assholes. Such is life, I suppose. jp×g🗯️ 19:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't really true. Soyjaks are bordering on mainstream now, and they're used by far more than 4channers. A soyjak of Andrew Tate significantly reduced his standing in internet culture. Cro-magnus (talk) 02:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, the chud is a caricature of far-right people. Cro-magnus (talk) 02:23, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
nah we gotta represent the chudweed. 2600:6C5E:2900:D180:8594:31ED:29D1:361B (talk) 20:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
nah im jp dont add that shit 2600:6C5E:2900:D180:8594:31ED:29D1:361B (talk) 20:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't edit Wikipedia, but I'd imagine this could set a really bad precedent for future edit wars on the website if you actually add it as a name. 2603:6010:7A02:2A00:A4F8:434B:658B:D9B0 (talk) 11:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
stop the feds from censoring chudweed 23.127.34.4 (talk) 22:01, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
true Jvneslvt (talk) 20:06, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
hello i am from new hampshire and we do call it chudweed not a troll name 2601:5CB:C000:ABA0:16A:DA3A:9E23:1093 (talk) 08:21, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i love this article and this plant's name :3 2001:56A:F888:1100:1810:6A9F:1F94:19A7 (talk) 17:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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