Talk:Better Luck Tomorrow

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Lee, Ruthann (2009). "Ambivalence, Desire and the Re-Imagining of Asian American Masculinity in Better Luck Tomorrow". In Watson, Elwood (ed.). Pimps, Wimps, Studs, Thugs and Gentlemen: Essays on Media Images of Masculinity. McFarland. ISBN 0786443057.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Erik (talk • contribs) 21:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a Spolier Alert

The article's plot description is much too thorough. I believe a spolier warning should be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wonstereo (talk • contribs) 20:46, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IMO it is not thorough enough. For such a good movie, the plot section is awfully limited. --Ihmhi (talk) 09:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I plan to add more of the plot; the Wiki pages for many other films have much more detailed plots. --Vszeto (talk) 04:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot 04:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This Needs a controversy section as well.

I think you did a good job with this page. I think it needs a "controversy" section though.

When this movie came out, many people who grew up in North Orange County claimed that the movie mirrored the Stuart Tay Case (also called the "Honor Roll Murder") as you know. Many of the scenes in this movie closely mirrored the case (the computer thefts, the "love triangle" issue, the New Years Day beating/murder). Justin Lin was from Buena Park, CA (the same city where the murder took place). Many people (especially those in the Asian community) complained about this movie because Lin claimed (and continues to claim) that the movie doesn't really mirror the Tay case. Those that grew up in that area (in 1992/'93) know different. It may be that he just had thoughts of this case loosely floating in his mind (and didn't intentionall refer to it) but it's difficult to conclude that there could be any coincidence. Lin admitted to knowing of the case, but has vigorously downplayed the close story the movie follows. I'm not trying to be acusatory, but the facts (& Lin's explanation) don't gell well.

Either way, this movie recieved some criticism when it debuted, & that should probably be mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.172.73.68 (talk) 17:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Protected

Edits to this articles are restricted to autoconfirmed editors again, following a continued push to represent this film as part of the "Fast and the Furious" franchise.
I acknowledge that 187.15.* might be willing to compromise here as well. Splitting that comment from the cast section into its own section can be an improvement. Discuss!
Amalthea 10:54, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What is the problem to have a "related movies" section in this article? Justin Lin already said that it is the same character. In the "cast" section there is a link in Han Lue name to every information described there, so all that information there is unnecessary, since it is just a "cast" section. It is not a POV push. It is just an improvement to the article. The POV push was made by you that do not want any other person to change what you have done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.15.8.128 (talk) 04:55, 7 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One week since last post. Where are the people who wants to discuss? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.15.119.236 (talk) 13:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So, where does Lin say this? What source says this? WhisperToMe (talk) 22:03, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Website files

WhisperToMe (talk) 06:03, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also"

Donnelly, Sally B. "The Honor Roll Murder." TIME. February 1, 1993. Page 60.

WhisperToMe (talk) 18:08, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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what is type of film better luck tomorrow

what is type of film better luck tomorrow 2404:160:A004:7F:1:0:21A3:9294 (talk) 13:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not based on Stuart Tay murder

From IMDB: Although some people thought that the film was inspired by the 1992 murder of Stuart Tay, an Asian-American youth who was killed by four of his peers on New Year's Eve in Orange County, California, filmmaker Justin Lin has stated that "at the very beginning of the writing process, [he] made a conscious decision not to base it on that, or any other, real event."

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0280477/trivia/?item=tr0597750&ref_=ext_shr_lnk 208.69.184.110 (talk) 18:02, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

IMDb is not a reliable source for this, and I couldn't find the quotation anywhere else. I toned down the statement anyway, as it went beyond what its ref says. Paradoctor (talk) 19:14, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]