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This seems like a fairly important article for the ancient culture of the Rhineland and Alsace regions so I am starting it by translating from the German article. The sources are mainly German. There is quite a bit more to be said than the German article contains. You can get a start in Triple Goddess. Celtic cities apparently were pretty much named after tribes or deities. I'm aiming at Worms here as well as Besancon and a lot of others.

Also I was quite impressed up until the time I read the pseudo-etymology of Samstag. It must be a joke. It can't be taken seriously. For one thing it is totally culture-specific but the author has the wrong culture. We need Celtic etymology and words here not confusions with modern dialects of German. But, the article without that seems a good start. When the author started talking about the Jewish etymology of Samstag I presumed momentarily we were going to get a connection between Ambet and Shabbat. I guess not. In any case there is quite a displacement of space-time between the origin of Shabbat and a possible use of Ambet in some celtic word for Saturday, so the idea is not even to be entertained momentarily.Dave 03:43, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I must regret to say that all of the book which brought up this theory is in the same pseudo-etymological style as the etymology of "Samstag" < "Ambet's day". Schöll only compares words or part of words which sound (often only slightly) similar and takes that for an evidence that they must be derived from, e.g. the name of one of the "Beten". Schöll obviously does not apply any linguistic method: sound shifts, search for old sources to retrieve the original form of a word ... He doesn't even seem to consult etymological dictionaries to look up where words come from, before he invents fantastic etymologies by himself. I read almost the entire book and its only use is the collection of legends related to the "three women". The interpretations have been rejected or (mostly) completely ignored by the scientists. The theory spread until now only in German-speaking esoteric circles and is hardly known in other countries. It is though not impossible that these three saints have forerunners in Celtic, Germanic or Roman goddesses, but all that theory, partly already religion constructed around them has no base at all. - Ralfonso —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.54.225.18 (talk) 23:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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