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GA Review

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Reviewer: Calvin999 (talk · contribs) 18:20, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Lead

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Calvin, with all the respect i owe to you... Are you kidding me with these issues? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 18:52, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No. Those points do read like hard facts, there is no flow with them. Actually read them out loud on the article, it is disruptive. Calvin Watch n' Learn 19:04, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above prose is good. Feel free to ask for second opinion. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:16, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Overall it is good, yes, but the points I have listed do read like a list Jivesh. Calvin Watch n' Learn 19:21, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I insist that they are good. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:30, 2 December 2011 (UTC)#[reply]
I never said they aren't good Jivesh, I said it reads like a list. Calvin Watch n' Learn 19:53, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have told it numerous times. I am not changing anything. The prose is good. Ask for a second opinion. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:56, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know what you mean't by "This is one is right" and "this looks good aswell". Jivesh, you are not understanding. I have never said the prose is bad. I simply said it reads a bit awkward, which means it could be refined slightly. But you aren't willing to change anything. End of matter now, there is nothing left to say on this page now. Calvin Watch n' Learn 19:59, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Recording and development

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  • Smith was initially intimidated at the prospect of working with Knowles. He told Gyant of Black Entertainment Television about the session. → Do you see what I mean by it being like a list?
    Calvin. This is the proper way of writing. You problem is that you write long sentences. Long sentences are what make the prose choppy. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:23, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    I tried something better. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Much better. See how what you have written is in effect shorter, but makes more sense to read and you say it in one sentence, not two broken up ones. Calvin Watch n' Learn 19:27, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Smith was in Los Angeles when Tony Dixon telephoned Smith → Smith was in Los Angeles when Tony Dixon telephoned him
  • Smith went to the studio in Los Angeles. → Okay?
    Should i remove it? Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:26, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, it is redundant. Calvin Watch n' Learn
  • During his journey, Smith wrote part of the song, and in the studio, Edmonds joined the writing session. → During his journey, Smith wrote part of the song, and was later joined in the studio by Edmonds.
  • Dixon and Smith completed the writing session for "Best Thing I Never Had". → It is literally killing me to have to keep stop, this is seriously like bullet points being read from a piece of paper.
  • It sounded more like a late 1980s hip hop material than a ballad. → Who said this?
All  Done Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:28, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Artwork and release

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  • A private listening party for Knowles' fourth studio album, 4, was held on May 12, 2011. Knowles offered a select group of fans a preview of five songs from 4 and the official video for the lead single "Run the World (Girls)". On that occasion, "Best Thing I Never Had" was one of the songs previewed.[8] → Are all three points from FN8?
    Done? Calvin Watch n' Learn
Yes. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:14, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • On May 1, 2011, a song titled "End of Time" was leaked as a demo[9] while the full demo of the song, featuring Knowles professing everlasting love, was leaked online on May 20, 2011, watermarked with the tag "internal use only". → I'm confused by this sentence. I think you should write that the lyrical content is about Knowles professing everlasting love. And what is the watermarked tag about? I think this needs to be explained more.
    Go to the link ad listen to the audio file. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:42, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    Doesn't matter. Calvin Watch n' Learn
  • with "Best Thing I Never Had" was favored → with...was? Not right.
    Done. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 06:42, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Composition

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Critical reception

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Chart performance

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Yes. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:18, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't you ever agree? Do you think i am trying to misguide you. I am telling you all this for your own good and you are still repeating the same things. Anyway, let it be. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:53, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Music video - Background

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  • was filmed → filmed. Filmed is already in the past tense, don't need a "was", as it's already obvious.
  • The music video for "Best Thing I Never Had" was directed by Diane Martel, and was filmed in Westchester County on June 15, 2011 and in Fort Greene, Brooklyn, on June 16, 2011. On June 20, 2011, it was announced that Knowles would not play the prom queen in the video. Knowles said that " ... not being prom queen in the video reminded her of how she never wore the coveted tiara at her own high school dance." She added that she felt strange because her father, Mathew Knowles, did not escort her down the aisle in the wedding scene, as he had when she married Jay-Z in April 2008. → Source(s)???
  • Knowles also wore a tiara designed by Lorraine Schwartz → Source?
    All  Done Jivesh1205 (Talk) 07:43, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Music video - Reception

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Music video - Alternate video

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Live performances

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Yes televised shows are always free. anyway the UK is irrelevant here. Let's stick to the US please. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:48, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Locks is perfectly understood in American English. We are using American English here because Beyonce is American. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:45, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Consensus has been reached that while you are editing an article related to an American, American English is used. All other points fail. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:50, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

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  • FN2: Link BET Networks
  • FN6: Link Entertainment Weekly and Time Inc.. (Remove the full stops from Time Inc as it appears as double)
  • FN11: Publisher is New York Media, LLC (See FN45 which is correct)
  • FN39: Unlink Entertainment Weekly and Time Inc (Remove the full stops from Time Inc as it appears as double)
  • FN47: Link Rolling Stone and Wenner Media
  • FN54: Unlink Rolling Stone and Wenner Media
  • FN96: Unlink Rap-Up
  • FN99: Remove the full stops from Time Inc as it appears as double
  • FN115: There are double brackets "))" and brackets within brackets
  • FN124: Remove the full stops from Time Inc as it appears as double
  • FN126: Same as FN115
  • FN139: Link The Official Charts Company
    Linked at FN 85.
    Okay. Calvin Watch n' Learn
  • FN2 and FN42 have double quotation marks, which means you have use " instead of ' in the title parameter.
All  Done Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:05, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Everything so far has been fixed. I will be back tomorrow. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 19:36, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Overall

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Passed. Calvin Watch n' Learn 20:00, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Jivesh1205 (Talk) 20:01, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]