Talk:Belovezha Accords
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recent rv about Presidents
[edit]There were no Presidents in Belarus before 1994. --Monkbel 06:33, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
- yep. I think so too. Bakharev was wrong to revert [1]. Also, not only presidents, but prime-ministers were also there. "leaders" is the right word, imho. --KPbIC 07:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Referendum
[edit]Why does this have no links to the all-USSR referendum on the preservation of the USSR that occurred just before the dissolution? It seems to be directly relevant to the issue of legality of the dissolution. 207.216.69.186 (talk) 04:50, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
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Infobox: flags
[edit]The infobox had been showing the Ukrainian SSR flag alongside the post-Soviet triband flags of Russia and and Belarus (rather than the flags of the Russian SFSR and Byelorussian SSR).
I have therefore changed the Ukrainian flag to the post-Soviet bicolour design. It is now consistent both with the other two flags used in the infobox, and the flag used by the Ukrainian government itself at the signing of the Accords, as evidenced by the photograph.
For sure, use of the Ukrainian bicolour at this time was de-facto, rather than de-jure, but this 'unofficial' status also applied to the Russian tricolour at this point in history. The Belarussian triband had, I think, been officially readopted in August 91 (?).
P M C 10:20, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Word "denounce"
[edit]The word "denounce" is used in a special technical diplomatic meaning in this article (Wiktionary: "To announce the termination of; especially a treaty or armistice") which may be confusing to some people without some kind of explanation. AnonMoos (talk) 07:20, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- Good point. I've added a footnoted definition and citation for it. I had hoped to find a source specifically discussing it in the context of this agreement, but I was not able to, so I figured it would be better to go ahead and add the generic definition that I had for now. Perhaps another editor will have better luck.--EightYearBreak (talk) 13:02, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- From perspective of English translating Russian.
- Denounce is used in the context of "to denounce one's power" or rather nullify (to deny, more specific refusal of a things power) the existence of the authority,- legitimate power of a subjugating entity.
- It means in the context of the Belovezha Accords to refuse the authority of the USSR's founding entity Russia's ability to veto dissolution of the USSR once it had been initiated because Russia was bound by the USSR's then charter principles (that those signatory states had agreed to).
- This is the best way I know how to explain it: Denounce translates like more strongly worded "condemn" (осуждать) so to Russia it could have come across as a pejorative rejection of state. I would have to do a deeper dive of the specifics of this accords wording to know if it was deliberately written as such but I think this is a mistranslation in/of wording into English. You would need the concurrence of another non-native (not first language) translator of Russian though to be sure. Roethorn (talk) 06:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. AnonMoos (talk)
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