Talk:Beer rating

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Beer rating article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1

Food and drink Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Food and drink, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of food and drink related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Food and drinkWikipedia:WikiProject Food and drinkTemplate:WikiProject Food and drinkFood and drink

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Food and Drink task list:

To edit this page, select here

Here are some tasks you can do for WikiProject Food and drink:

Help bring these Top Importance articles currently B Status or below up to GA status: Agaricus bisporus (i.e. mushroom), Beef, Bread, Curry, Drink, Food, Ham and eggs, Soy sauce, Sushi, Yogurt
Bring these Top Importance articles currently at GA status up to FA status: Beer, French cuisine, Sugar
Bring these High Importance articles currently at GA status up to FA status: Apple, Burger King, Fish
Participate in project-related deletion discussions.
Delete unrelated trivia sections found in articles. Please review WP:Trivia and WP:Handling trivia to learn how to do this.
Add the {{WikiProject Food and drink}} project banner to food and drink related articles and content to help bring them to the attention of members. For a complete list of banners for WikiProject Food and drink and its child projects, select here.
Provide photographs and images for Category:Wikipedia requested images of food
Consider joining this project's Assessment task force. List any project ideas in this section

Note: These lists are transcluded from the project's tasks pages.

Beer Mid‑importance

	Beer portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Beer, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Beer, Brewery, and Pub related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.BeerWikipedia:WikiProject BeerTemplate:WikiProject BeerBeer
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Delete/stub

This article just seems to be a way to promote rating websites that are not notable, as pointed out soon after the article was started [1]. The article hasn't significantly improved since. I'm for stubbing it, but deletion would be fine. --Ronz (talk) 15:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not notable? do u know anything about beer?Dabiiigtimers (talk) 03:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We need to show notability, not just assume it, by citing reliable sources. Are there more articles like the New Yorks Times one? They would help. Are there books about beer ratings that you know of?—C45207 | Talk 05:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stubbing makes sense. If the current rating organizations mentioned are suitable for their own articles (which the references as they are now do not really suggest) the info should be moved there but it shouldn't be in this article. -- SiobhanHansa 19:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

External links

I disagree with Ronz's edit removing the external links from the article. This is the article for Beeradvocate, Ratebeer, etc, and their external links are appropriate. — goethean ॐ 18:23, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As this article isn't specifically about any of the rating websites, WP:ELNO #19 applies, as well as WP:SOAP. --Ronz (talk) 18:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

J.D. Wetherspoon advertising

This article as a whole seems to be a bit immature, as it looks like it contains a lot of advertising. Especially the link to Wetherspoons. Of course they perform a beer rating during their real ale festival in spring, but is that really something that is so special to this pub chain, that for this fact alone the pub chain has to be cited? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.206.224.33 (talk) 19:19, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blatant and unencyclopedic advertising from DasBeers

I'm mostly new to dealing with templates, so am at least temporarily bringing this to the talk page. In its current form, DasBeer's entry seems suited for speedy deletion because it reads entirely as an advertisement. If someone knows how to correctly address this, please do. Pixel Eater (talk) 06:53, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed it per WP:V. This is the same problem discussed in the first discussion above. --Ronz (talk) 17:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Page needs rating system content

While the existing page is a convenient parking spot for ratings-gathering websites, it would be improved IMO by descriptions of such other rating systems as exist. The BJCP's system would be one example, the CAMRA 'National Beer Scoring Scheme' another (although very different in its intent as it appears to focus solely on the condition of beer served at a given pub at a given time?). There must be others? I'm not promoting or criticizing any particular model, just trying to think of how to improve the content of the page. Shorn again (talk) 14:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Can we find some sources to expand the article this way? --Ronz (talk) 16:11, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Little progress

We've made little progress with this article beyond the concerns already mentioned above. We're creeping beyond delete/stub concerns, but only barely. The main interest from editors is to present beer rating systems equally despite the complete lack of independent reliable sources demonstrating we should do so.

I've trimmed the article back, and tagged the remaining rating system as being overly promotional. --Ronz (talk) 17:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, I've removed sections with absolutely no independent sources, and tagged the rest as being overly promotional. --Ronz (talk) 18:00, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

BeerAdvocate "Advertising"

The BeerAdvocate section is not in the style of an advertisement. It is a listing of facts, not a solicitation or marketing of any kind. The 'Advertisement' listing is unnecessary and unwarranted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stewie814 (talk • contribs) 14:25, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It promotes BeerAdvocate and RateBeer by over-relying on their own self-published press. The relevant policy is WP:NPOV, but I've changed the maintenance template to focus editors on finding independent, reliable sources. --Ronz (talk) 19:08, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I completely agree with that assessment and I think that the new tag is a good idea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stewie814 (talk • contribs) 14:02, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 3 external links on Beer rating. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 10:23, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Beer rating. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/20090508105532/http://members.allstream.net:80/~jdoakes/ to http://members.allstream.net/~jdoakes/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 00:07, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Beer rating. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 20:35, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]