Talk:Baubau
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Merge?
[edit]Okay, I'm laodeabdul.. i will suggest that Bau-bau article merge with Bau-Bau and use Bau-Bau instead because Bau-Bau is the correct name. Thank you. Laodeabdul 03:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC)Laodeabdul
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Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 02:44, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- ... that Baubau city filed two different budgets at the same time, resulting it to lose their chance at becoming capital of Southeast Sulawesi? Source: "Beberapa sebab terpilihnya Kota Kendari sebagai Ibukota Provinsi Sulawesi Tenggara di antaranyakalah jumlah suara pada saat pemilihan untuk penentuan ibukota. Selain itu,terjadi malbirokrasi di mana ada dinas di Kota Baubau yang mengajukan anggaran dua versi dan yang mengajukan dua orang, sehingga terjadi dualisme dalam satu dinas. Akibatnya,kekacauan dalam sistem birokrasi dan tata pemerintahan sangat mungkin terjadi jika Kota Baubau menjadi ibukota provinsi. Oleh karena itu, Mendagri dan Otonomi Daerah dalam keputusannya mengesahkan Kota Kendari sebagai Ibukota Provinsi Sulawesi Tenggara." Rabani, L. O., Purwanto, B., & Margana, S. (2020). Politik dan Ekonomi di Dua Kota: Baubau dan Kendari pada tahun 1950an–1960an. MOZAIK HUMANIORA, 20(1), 39–56. https://doi.org/10.20473/mozaik.v20i1.15746
- ALT1: ... that Baubau city has a fortress made out of coral reefs and limestones? Source: "Benteng Wolio dibangun dengan bahan baku berupa batu karang, pasir, dan kapur. Dalam sistem pengetahuan setempat, bahan perekat material benteng menggunakan putih telur ayam." https://books.google.co.id/books?id=HRHszgEACAAJ&newbks=0&hl=id&redir_esc=y (Page 49)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Minnesota State Highway 36
- Comment: Newly expanded 5 times, CE will be very appreciated thank you. Also special request to be posted on 29th July.
Nyanardsan (talk) 01:44, 16 May 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, but special occasion requests for more than six weeks require consensus at WT:DYK. I'd also expect a more merciless prepbuilder to truncate ALT0 at 'time'.--Launchballer 18:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Nyanardsan: Please complete a QPQ, and link it above. Thanks, Z1720 (talk) 02:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- QPQ added. I also would like to highlight my request once again. I am fine if it must go through consensus at WT:DYK and any modification/ALTs are also fine as long as it mentions the city's name. Nyanardsan (talk) 03:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a review but I would oppose the special occasion request. For one thing, the significance of the date is not even stated in the nomination, plus there is no mention of the date in the article. Thus it is not even clear what the significance of July 29 to the subject is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:34, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:38, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- I am currently unable to check for close paraphrasing as Earwig is currently rate limited, so this is only a preliminary review. I can verify that a 5x expansion was completed within seven days of the nomination, and that a QPQ has been provided. I have a slight preference for ALT0, but as Launchballer suggested it will probably need copyediting. Both hooks are cited inline and cited to Indonesian sources; AGF although Google Translate seems to verify the information. A QPQ has been provided. The primary issue with the article right now is that it is in need of a copyedit. The article is inconsistent with its use of quotation marks (some statements use single ones and others use doubles) and there are multiple grammatical errors in the article, mostly missing uses of "the". Asking Launchballer for help in copyediting, but otherwise the article can't run until that is completed. As for the special occasion request, given that the article was nominated outside six weeks, it needed an IAR exemption at WT:DYK, but that did not happen. However, I would oppose such a special occasion request for that date as it is not mentioned anywhere in the article and its significance to the subject is unclear. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll take a look at this in the morning.--Launchballer 02:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've added quite a few tags to this, and there may be more. I plan on giving this another pass, but this should take some of the edge off.--Launchballer 11:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Nyanardsan: A few things; '98.45' is not a ratio; long strings of percentages such as the ones in Demographics would flow much better as a list; I found quite a few instances of claims being backed up by sources that can't possibly contain them, for example a 2022 source claiming something is as of 2023, and these will have to be remedied.--Launchballer 08:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- For the ratio, I clarified again. I was simply following the statistics document like always, mentioning gender ratio in that way. I disagree with the demographics section should be converted to list, it is fine as it is as prose. The unclarified sources one have been fixed (I apologize, it's mostly me forgetting to recite BPS documents which is used a lot), except for the fish export one which is correctly cited already by AntaraNews article Nyanardsan (talk) 14:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Who described the Buton Sultanate's political position as "like a shuttlecock"? This should be in the article. Also, ratios show quantities relative to each another and are usually written in the form a:b.--Launchballer 16:07, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- For the ratio, I clarified again. I was simply following the statistics document like always, mentioning gender ratio in that way. I disagree with the demographics section should be converted to list, it is fine as it is as prose. The unclarified sources one have been fixed (I apologize, it's mostly me forgetting to recite BPS documents which is used a lot), except for the fish export one which is correctly cited already by AntaraNews article Nyanardsan (talk) 14:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Nyanardsan: A few things; '98.45' is not a ratio; long strings of percentages such as the ones in Demographics would flow much better as a list; I found quite a few instances of claims being backed up by sources that can't possibly contain them, for example a 2022 source claiming something is as of 2023, and these will have to be remedied.--Launchballer 08:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've added quite a few tags to this, and there may be more. I plan on giving this another pass, but this should take some of the edge off.--Launchballer 11:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll take a look at this in the morning.--Launchballer 02:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
@Nyanardsan: I asked for this a week ago. What's the holdup?--Launchballer 21:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed the ratio part by linking it to the concept instead (again, I was just following the statistical document like I always did, feel free to clarify it to the BPS document directly), for the quotation part I think it's fine to just delete it entirely Nyanardsan (talk) 00:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've reworded that bit to make it clearer. I think I'll pass you back to @Narutolovehinata5:.--Launchballer 05:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: You don't see any sourcing issues anymore? Because if not this can be good to go. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:09, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have no qualms with the article; I note you said that you hadn't checked for close paraphrasing as Earwig was currently rate limited, however I can't see any sources that aren't offline or foreign, so I can AGF on them. @Nyanardsan: the hook says 'that Baubau city filed two different budgets at the same time, resulting it to lose their chance at becoming capital of Southeast Sulawesi' article says 'The decision to choose Kendari instead of Baubau was both the result of the city losing a public vote against Kendari 45-27 and of an incident where the city drafted two different budgets produced by two different officials at the same time, creating dualism in the city's bureaucracy.' (emphasis mine). These are not the same thing. If you're alright with the following:
- ALT0a: ... that the city of Baubau once filed two different budgets at the same time?
- ALT1a: ... that the city of Baubau has a fortress made out of coral reefs and limestones?
- I'll go ahead and approve this.--Launchballer 09:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, we should be good to go here. Either ALT0a and ALT1a are possible, but I have a slight preference for the first. I'll leave the final promoter. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:04, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: You don't see any sourcing issues anymore? Because if not this can be good to go. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:09, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've reworded that bit to make it clearer. I think I'll pass you back to @Narutolovehinata5:.--Launchballer 05:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)