Talk:Battle of Oltenița

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Stub

I've expanded the article a bit, so I've removed the Stub tags; but if anyone thinks it's still stubby, feel free to put them back. Xyl 54 (talk) 15:32, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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‘A Personal Narrative’ written by G. Rhodes is hardly an authoritative source, given that it is biased and that its estimates regarding the battle are based on ‘personal notation’ and suggestions, as the author himself made evident on the page cited. It is clearly not in line with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view; dubious figures and prejudiced opinions must not be included into the article. Dolchstoß (talk) 23:45, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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"both sides claiming victory"

Now the Lead claims: "The battle was indecisive, with both sides claiming victory." In fact, I did not see the Russian side talking about its undoubted victory. Now there is a link to Orlando's book (Orlando Figes. The Crimean War: A History. Metropolitan Books. 2011. P. 131.) and he, in turn, refers to the memoirs in the magazine "Russian Antiquity" (Russkaia starina). I looked at the page indicated - there is nothing about the "victory", only a mention of "the fight that was near Oltenitsa" and that their military unit was transferred to Oltenitsa after this fight, to reinforce the Russian troops who were already there [1]. In the book of Bogdanovich (Russian historian of the 19th century) I see a detailed investigation into the reasons for the defeat, although the Russians exaggerate the strength of the Turks and their losses to disguise their failure. He sums up: "Our troops did their duty honestly, and that the Turks could not boast of victory; we retreated, and were not repulsed" [2]. Since there is an obvious mistake in Orlando's book, I will remove this statement, especially since the next sentences contain everything that is necessary.--Nicoljaus (talk) 10:11, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]